Wednesday, September 2, 2009

BD impressions: Gladiator

10:40 PM / BD Impressions / Comments14 Comments

BD Impressions
Blu-ray

This is the first time I've ever bought a Blu-ray Disc simply to confirm what I already knew to be the case. I picked up Gladiator because I feel that it is important to get the word out about this title without having my views discounted by people who throw around the term "screenshot scientist" and tell me that my opinion means nothing unless I've seen the disc in motion. I already knew exactly what to expect, and was not in the least bit surprised by what I saw when I popped the disc into my player. Why?

Because direct screen captures do not lie.

Oh, for sure, a static frame can't hope to convey the fidelity of moving grain, but the bizarre notion that rampant edge enhancement and a pitiful level of detail might somehow cease to be an issue in motion just baffles me. I'm sure that some of the ninnies over on that forum that I shall not name (you know, the ones throwing around accusations of screenshot doctoring and attempting to sabotage the Blu-ray format because, oh, I don't know) will accuse me of going in with a closed mind, having already made up my mind about the disc without having watched it. I don't care. There's no earthly reason why I would want any disc to look bad, and what I'm about to say gives me no pleasure. I don't like to repeat myself, so I shall say this just once:

Paramount's release of Gladiator is probably the worst BD I have ever seen of a recent film of this standing.

Oh, there have been poorer-looking BDs, to be sure. BFI's release of Salò is notoriously shoddy, and the less said about Koch Vision's Gulliver's Travels the better. And let's not forget the standard definition upconverts like Universal's Traffic and Optimum's Escape from New York. There have been some truly revolting-looking discs of major Hollywood releases too, such as Disney's Gangs of New York and New Line's Dark City. All well and good, and personally I actually prefer both of these films to Ridley Scott's sandal epic, but even so, Gladiator is a special case. It's one of the big guns - one of a small number of titles that, if released three years earlier, could potentially have helped turn the tide of the Blu-ray/HD DVD format war in either direction. In terms of public clamouring for its release, it's just about up there with Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings and George Lucas' Star Wars trilogies. For a major studio to screw up such a high profile release so badly, something must truly be wrong with their quality control, and serious questions should be asked as to how this film could have been treated so abysmally.

Let's be clear: I'm not one of those people who believes that Film A deserves to be treated better than Film B. All films, regardless of their merits (which are highly subjective anyway), should be handled with equal care. However, the realist in me knows that some films are considered more "important" both by the studios and by the majority of the public, and with this higher "importance" comes higher expectations. The fact is that films like Gladiator sell Blu-ray players. This is not some obscure, niche interest film that only a handful of people are going to buy. People are going to pick up copies of this disc with the expactation that it will look stellar. Furthermore, I suspect that many suppliers, seeking to demonstrate what they assume to be the full capability of the format, will use it for in-store demonstrations in an attempt to shift BD players and HDTVs (the people in charge of setting up these displays tend to be even less discerning than the average person who frequents that forum I won't name). Rightly or wrongly, people expect recent Hollywood blockbusters to be the best-looking titles. Ask yourself this: if you had limited knowledge of Blu-ray and saw this being touted as the best the format had to offer (which, incidentally, is precisely what Paramount is doing)...

Gladiator
studio: Paramount; country: USA; region code: A; codec: AVC;
file size: 32.84 GB (theatrical), 37.47 GB (exetended);
average bit rate (including audio): 31.42 Mbit/sec (theatrical), 31.37 Mbit/sec (extended)

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...would you really want to see the worst?

I'm not going to regurgitate in any detail the pages and pages that have already been written about this travesty of a release, but suffice it to say: intolerable levels of edge enhancement, a complete dearth of fine detail, skin with the texture of hot wax, DVNR artefacts that a grade schooler could spot... this is a textbook example of a presentation that should have been rejected outright. 4/10

Oh, and here's how the whole film could have looked had some actual effort been invested. These captures, from the scenes spliced into the extended edition of the film (viewable on the disc via seamless branching), are a sick joke, a slap in the face:

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14 Comments

1. Kram Sacul said:

Those extended scene captures look so much better it's not funny. It's like true HD shots spliced into a badly upconverted dvd. I don't really like Gladiator that much but I just can't believe this was released like this. Total failure of quality control.

(Posted on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 at 11:55 PM)

2. Godbluffer said:

Even though I myself see that the theatrical shots look sub-bar, I can understand why a lot of people would find them acceptable - apart from a few TOO obviously sharpened shots that is - but as soon as you start looking at the extended shots it becomes awfully obvious how much BETTER they look. Far more detail, a far more pleasing color scheme (breathtakingly beautiful earth-tones instead of the pale pinkish sheen on some of the theatrical shots!), and no artificial sharpening or smearing whatsoever.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 12:02 AM)

Personally, I find all the hoopla amusing.
While Gladiator is a decent and entertaining movie, it's nowhere near Ridley Scott's best (Alien, Blade Runner, Hannibal, even Legend!) and I'd much rather watch Spartacus any day. I hope that film is released on BD with the Criterion supplements soon.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 12:25 AM)

4. ucupa said:

I am so glad you voice your opinion here.
That particular reviewer from The Digital Bits ought to be ashamed of himself for making such comments regarding direct screenshots. Sure there are some "screenshots" that are captured by photographing the image on the screen and then doctoring it in Photoshop, but that reviewer should have realized that the screenshots of Gladiator on that dvdbeaver site have been taken directly from the source, and thus they speak for themselves. I refer to dvdbeaver for their direct screenshots.
Sure, when we watch things in motion it could be *different*, but digital manipulations such as edge enhancements that appear on *every single shot* of the theatrical version of Gladiator ... well .... they do not lie, like you said.

Some of these reviewers are big fans of the film, and thus their "video/audio" opinion is biased ... I started noticing that since Star Wars Episode 1 (The Phantom Menace) first came out on DVD, and a lot of web reviewers gave it great ratings on the video quality.

And thus I also want to say that "The Dark Knight" blu-ray video quality is sub-par, for what could've been great like the opening prologue they included in the Batman Begins blu-ray. But of course, the reviewers like this blockbuster movie, so they give the video transfer great ratings, too.

So bravo once again for voicing your opinion. Hopefully that reviewer from The Digital Bits read your site and is gentleman enough to be objective about this thing.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM)

5. Godbluffer said:

@ Daniel Sardella

Your remark about the movie itself is entirely beside the point. That's obviously not what the "hoopla" is all about, so you're really not contributing anything. There are tons of people who love this movie and rightfully expected better treatment of it.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 12:50 AM)

6. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

I have never seen Gladiator and was contemplating buying the Blu-ray. After seeing all the various screenshots, I will definitely pass. This doesn't even look passable; it looks like utter shit.

I'm so glad Braveheart looks so marvelous (watched it tonight and it's stunning), especially since it is one of my favorite films and one of the most visually-appealing to me.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 6:24 AM)

7. Olly said:

It says a lot about the credentials of a lot of reviewers that this got such glowing video scores in early reviews. It's clearly deficient in so many areas and you could see it from the first screenshots on DVD Beaver, yet the praise seemed to be unanimous until people started calling them out on it.

Same deal with The Dark Knight. Completely over-sharpened and not even looking as good as its own opening sequence when it was a special feature on Batman Begins, but few of the reviews even mention edge-enhancement in anything other than passing.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM)

8. FoxyMulder said:

Regarding The Dark Knight it only looks the way it does because some idiot decided to use an IMAX print instead of the 35mm print for scenes shot in 35mm. The IMAX scenes on that disc do look impressive to me.

At least thats my opinion. I personally feel The Dark Knight isn't as bad as some of the truly terrible releases out there.

I also thought Batman Begins looked excellent though and i know Whiggles disagrees with me on that one.

Regarding Gladiator. Daniel are you really saying Hannibal is a better film than Gladiator. Let me shout this from the rooftops. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it isn't.

Legend is an underrated gem though ( the European cut with Goldsmiths excellent music score not that badly edited Tangerine Dream scored edition )

Thelma and Louise where are you. Love that film.

You may be very disappointed if Universal just release the HD DVD edition of Spartacus on Blu Ray. It needs more restoration work and a new print struck. Will they do it for this great classic Kirk Douglas movie ? I hope so but i'm not holding my breath.

The studio's said last year that now the format war is over it's about getting lots of product onto the shelves. They don't care if the product isn't as good as it can be. They are short sighted and will damage the format unless quality control tightens up.

What's the betting Forrest Gump looks crap when it gets released in November ?

I didn't buy into Blu Ray to get this sort of crap i want no edge enhancement and i want all the possible detail intact. Edge enhancement is a particular annoyance and sticks out more to me on HD discs due to the higher resolution. I just notice it so much more.

Just finished watching Season 7 of 24 and episodes 5-8 set in daylight hours show plenty of edge enhancement. Nightime episodes when it gets dark show very little and thats probably due to the fact the characters wearing black against daylight shots help the EE stand out more whilst the dark nightime scenes hide it better.

Minor issues really due to the fact most episodes are fine probably due to the aforementioned reason but why do they feel the need to sharpen HD material ? Why on earth do they do that. Is it due to making one master for DVD and Blu Ray and then sharpening the master ? If so thats incompetence in my book as the master should not be touched.

I mean on large screens EE is just the worst in my book. I hate it.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 2:52 PM)

9. thomas p vinelli said:

Almost 2 days and not a word from paramount.they did this with startrek the 6 movie set,noting.

(Posted on Thursday, September 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM)

10. Dirk Diggler said:

I picked up the UK disc today and will be returning it tomorrow. Someone's head should be on pike over this crap!

(Posted on Monday, September 7, 2009 at 11:05 PM)

11. Dom said:

sadly it seems you're better off picking up the 4HD 1080i mpeg-2 broadcast

(Posted on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 at 9:53 AM)

12. Don VIto said:

I've heard that in 'RL', up close and personal Russell Crowe really has the appearance of melting wax. I read this on Wikipedia, so it must be true...

(Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM)

13. Kram Sacul said:

Is that aliasing on Joaquin Phoenix's shoulder in capture 5?

(Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 12:47 AM)

14. thomas p vinelli said:

oct 10 2009 still noting from paramount.honestly if i were head of this project,i'd fire myself!how do people get away with this and still keep there jobs. geez!

(Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 2:58 AM)

 
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