Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Suspiria: the good, the bad and the downright ugly

4:17 PM / Blu-ray / Comments42 Comments

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Monday saw the release of the first English-friendly BD of Dario Argento's masterpiece, Suspiria. Already released on BD in Italy just under a year ago, that release was pretty much a disappointment all round due to its lack of English audio and, perhaps even more significantly, its thoroughly mangled video, sourced from Technicolor's "controversial" 2007 digital restoration.

For those not completely up to speed on the issues surrounding this restoration, a little light reading is perhaps in order:

The above is obviously a lot to take in, so for the sake of expediency I'll do my best to summarise it. Essentially, in 2007, Technicolor created a brand new digital master in collaboration with cinematographer Luciano Tovoli. This master was then used as the source for a number of new releases, including Italian and French DVDs and, last year, an Italian BD. These discs bore a colour palette unlike anything to be found in any of the film's previous releases. Hues that were once neutral were now screamingly saturated, the greyscale in certain scenes was severely clipped, the film's final shot had for some reason been tinted red, and the brightness was on the whole far too high. My reaction was not exactly delicate, and many people were quick to question my assertions. How did I know this wasn't what the film was meant to look like? How could I be so sure that it wasn't simply that all the previous DVD (and VHS, and Laserdisc) releases were wrong? After all, Tovoli was involved, and surely he knew better than anyone - perhaps even Argento himself - how it should look? Had I ever seen an original IB Technicolor print, considered to be the most accurate representation of Argento and Tovoli's intentions?

In May last year, I did. The Glasgow Film Theatre screened a vintage UK Technicolor print. It suffered from some noticeable damage and had been hacked to bits by the censors, but one thing was clear: it looked nothing like any of the home video releases derived from the 2007 remaster. In fact, its look was so similar to that of the 2001 Anchor Bay DVD that I found myself with a new respect for whoever was responsible for the creation of that master. As far as I was concerned, the case was closed: something had gone badly wrong in the creation of the 2007 remaster, and I had seen the proof with my own eyes.

Shortly afterwards, further evidence arose, suggesting that, while Tovoli had sat in on the actual digital restoration, he was unhappy with the look of the home video releases derived from it. This fuelled speculation that the problems had not crept in during the restoration itself but rather during the conversion of the colour gamut from the Digital Cinema Initiative master to consumer HD. It's far from conclusive, of course, but for the time being it's the theory that I consider the most likely.

And now, in January 2010, here we are with yet another Suspiria release, this time a British one. Part of Nouveaux Pictures' new Cine-Excess line, the film has been released concurrently in both DVD and BD editions, boasting (and I quote) a "new high definition transfer". New in what way, though? New full stop or just new to the UK? When this release was announced, part of me genuinely hoped that this would indeed be derived from a completely new master - one which was faithful to Argento and Tovoli's original vision - but deep down I knew I was probably being unrealistic. The main draw for me, therefore, was the roster of extras, which included a new commentary by Alan Jones and Kim Newman (who previously teamed up to great effect on Blue Underground's release of The Bird with the Crystal Plumage).

I'm going to take each aspect of this release in turn:

The Cine-Express label

Right off the bat, the subtitle "Taking Trash Seriously", emblazoned on the front cover, rankles me. It may seem like a very minor point, but it creates the wrong impression. I've seen plenty of films that can be described as trash; Suspiria is not one of them, and suggesting that it is, even affectionately, strikes me as borderline offensive. I don't doubt that the "trash" label was applied primarily as a means of shifting copies - presenting the film as some sort of "forbidden fruit" in much the same way that Shameless Screen Entertainment tend to go for the tawdriest possible cover art and taglines in order to make their DVDs stand out on store shelves. However, I fear that this marketing choice will ultimately do more harm than good. Films like Suspiria are subject to enough heckling already, from wise-asses who poke fun at the dubbing, the unrealistic blood and the fact that (gosh!) it looks and sounds like a film made in 1977, not 2010. Call something trash and people will treat it as such. It ties into this infuriating modern day trend of celebrating films like these in an "ironic" way, championing what are considered to be their flaws rather than watching them as products of their time.

It's a shame because, in his introduction to the Cine-Excess label (a 10-minute clip reel that appears on the disc, interspersed with commentary), Xavier Mendik primarily uses the term "cult" to describe the films that comprise the series, which strikes me as a far more appropriate, not to mention respectful, way of labelling a film such as Suspiria. It suggests obscurity and the notion of the allure of the forbidden without unnecessarily demeaning it.

The Extras

In addition to the aforementioned introduction to the Cine-Excess label, there are three bonus features on the disc. The first, the 35-minute Fear at 400 Degrees, is a general retrospective look at the film, featuring comments from Argento, composer Claudio Simonetti, journalist Kim Newman, horror director Norman J. Warren, and academic Patricia MacCormack, and held together by comments from Mendik. More theoretical and analytical in nature than the documentary to be found on the 2001 Anchor Bay DVD, this featurette traces the films roots as an outgrowth from Argento's earlier gialli and explores these films' cultural significance. As such, it's as much about 70s Italian genre cinema as a whole as it is about Suspiria, but at least half the running time is dedicated to the landmark film itself, its legacy, and of course the dreaded remake that we've been threatened with for almost a decade now.

Next, the 41-minute Suspiria Perspectives interviews MacCormack, Warren and Simonetti sequentially, allowing each of them more time to talk about the subjects that interest them rather than making them conform to a documentary-style featurette with a specific narrative. Some material is repeated from the previous feature, but in general this is actually a plus rather than a negative because it allows the various speakers time to really delve into their subject matter. Warren does have a tendency to waffle about his own films at times, and both he and MacCormack devote rather a lot of time to the supposed lesbian subtext of the film (which Argento now admittedly subscribes to himself), but in general these personal reactions to Suspiria are interesting and at times enlightening. The fact that all three participants are coming at the film from completely different perspectives (the academic, the fellow filmmaker/fan, someone who was actually involved in the film's production) makes this a varied and broad-reaching piece on the whole.

Best of all, however, is the Alan Jones/Kim Newman commentary. While die-hard Argentophiles will most likely already have heard the majority of anecdotes they impart, it's first and foremost the pair's enthusiasm that makes the track work, as was the case with The Bird with the Crystal Plumage. Their love for the film shines through at all times, but at the same time the tone is decidedly unsanctimonous, and the pair are not above sending up the slightly dodgier moments, such as the cut-out eyes that appear in the window before Pat (Eva Axén)'s murder, and Miguel Bosé's attempts at ballet. Permit me to spoil my favourite moment:

Jessica Harper (as Suzy): "But what does it mean to be a witch?"
Alan Jones: "Jessica, it doesn't mean anything! If you hadn't realised this by now..."

The Sound

Holy Moly! Now this is not something I was expecting. I was fully prepared to find either the notoriously bungled Anchor Bay 5.1 remix on the disc, or something derived from the more faithful but horribly distorted 2.0 Surround mix from the earlier Italian DVD. What I absolutely did not expect is a brand new 5.1 mix that completely obliterates what came before it. By that, I don't mean that it's simply louder, punchier and more immersive than the AB remix (although it is all of these things): as far as original intent is concerned, this is a vastly more faithful presentation of the film's soundtrack than anything I've heard outside of the 2.0 downmix found on the Image Entertainment Laserdisc. On the AB disc, the music was mixed too quietly in relation to the dialogue and sound effects, and a number of audio cues were either altered, misplaced or absent entirely. While it certainly sounded impressive to those unfamiliar with the film (as I was myself when I first watched the AB disc), long-term Suspiria aficionados immediately knew something was wrong, and were rightly aggrieved that AB had made such significant alterations to the sound while failing to provide the original mix to go alongside it.

The audio track on the new BD is not the original mix. That was four-channel; this is 5.1. Most of us have never even heard the 4-channel mix, as it has never been released on home video, and to the best of my knowledge all the recent theatrical screenings have been in mono (another perfectly valid, albeit less awe-inspiring, way to experience to the film). The closest match has, until now, been the 2-channel downmix on the Image Entertainment Laserdisc, a truly thunderous affair that, while suffering from some noticeable distortion of the high frequencies, is very satisfying to listen to and, when upmixed to surround sound, is said to represent a close approximation of the original 4-channel mix.

As such, I don't feel that I can state with any great authority that the new 5.1 mix on the BD is faithful to the 4-channel mix. However, in terms of its overall levels, not to mention the sound effects and their placement, this sounds remarkably like a surround sound version of the Laserdisc audio combined with the clarity of the AB remix. In other words, the best of both worlds. When Jessica Harper stepped out of the airport into the thunderstorm and Goblin's score kicked in at an almost deafening level, I knew things were going to be all right. As I continued to watch the movie, time after time my fears were allayed. Stefania Casini now correctly reacts to the dinner bell ringing rather than to silence. The thunderclaps as Joan Bennett drinks from the chalice have been reinstated. The "Whispers and Sighs" track, completely absent from the AB DVD (and, it should be noted, the mono audio track accompanying the IB Technicolor print I saw), now appears in its two rightful places. The end credit scroll is accompanied by manic screams and wails rather than just music. And so on and so forth. If a problem was documented with the AB mix, it is corrected here. As such, I'm extremely grateful to Nouveaux Pictures for delivering what I believe is Suspiria's first truly satisfying English language audio track on home video. Would I like to have seen the true blue 4-channel mix presented on the disc? Of course, but in its absence, this is the next best thing.

The Video

Unfortunately, here's where things begin to go off the rails. As predicted, the encode on this BD is derived from the notorious 2007 restoration.

First, however, the good news.

The 2009 Italian BD suffered from several invasive instances of DVNR gone wrong, and many of these problems are absent here. I previously assumed that all of the DVNR artefacts crept in during the clean-up process carried out when the master itself was created. The absence of a number of them here, however, points to the Italian BD having had another automated spot removal pass added to it, one which created some major problems. For instance, compare these two instances of the exact same frame:

Left: Italian; right: UK (click to enlarge)

Suspiria Suspiria

The frame on the Italian release has to be someone's idea of a joke. The software has identified parts of Jessica Harper's hair and eyes as damage and filled them in with brown which it picked up from God knows where. This is a textbook example of what can go wrong when you let automatic clean-up software go unchecked. Thankfully, for their release Nouveaux have either not applied any additional NR, or if they have they've done it considerably more carefully.

Further good news: remember the problem I described on the Italian BD whereby, at the start of each new shot, Frame 1 would look fine, Frame 2 would be severely smudged, and then Frame 3 onwards would be fine? Well, guess what - this appears once again to have been the result of DVNR being applied to the Italian BD and allowed to go unchecked. Compare Frame 2 of this shot in both releases:

Left: Italian; right: UK (click to enlarge)

Suspiria Suspiria

However, don't for a moment think that all of the DVNR issues are gone. Some clearly did enter the chain at the restoration stage, and as such are present here as well. These include instance of parts of the background freezing and moving around, as well as, on at least one occasion, part of a frame somehow ending up being pasted into the lower letterbox bar:

http://www.landofwhimsy.com/funbag/suspiriaukbd3.jpg

Such issues only last for a frame or so at a time, which might not sound like a big deal, but they certainly add up and create the impression of an image that feels somewhat... unstable, for want of a better word.

Finally, and perhaps most significantly, one of the major issues with the Italian BD, the fact that it was simply too bright, has been corrected here to some extent. It's still brighter than the Anchor Bay transfer, giving scenes such as the one where Sara tries to wake up a drugged Suzy after discovering that her notes have disappeared, in the middle of the night, an unnatural overlit quality, but on the whole the blacks are inkier now, and this goes some way towards restoring the sense of balance that was previously lost. In particular, one moment where a killer hidden in the shadows was clearly visible on the Italian BD, destroying much of the surprise when he struck, now plays somewhat better since he is harder to see, as seems to have been Argento's intention:

Left: Italian; right: UK (click to enlarge)

Suspiria Suspiria

Unfortunately, in spite of these improvements, by far the biggest problem - the blown out highlights - has not been solved. In fact, if you looked closely at the picture above, you'll probably have noticed that they are in fact worse than ever on the UK release. It's important to stress that many scenes look very nice indeed, with contrast never being an immediate concern. However, it almost goes without saying at this stage that, when this transfer looks bad, it really looks bad:

Left: Italian; right: UK (click to enlarge)

Suspiria Suspiria
Suspiria Suspiria
Suspiria Suspiria

For reference, here are how these frames looked in Anchor Bay's beautiful, faithful transfer:

Suspiria

Suspiria

Suspiria

In general, I feel that the following scenes are the worst affected:

  • Suzy's conversation with Olga (Barbara Magnolfi) at Olga's apartment
     
  • Daniel (Flavio Bucci) approaching the Tanzakademie after the students have spent the night in the practice hall, and his subsequent dismissal by Miss Tanner (Alida Valli)
     
  • Suzy's conversation with Madame Blanc (Joan Bennett) following Daniel's death
     
  • The end of Suzy's journey down the "golden corridor" (said to be Tovoli's proudest achievement as a cinematographer, as per Alan Jones on the audio commentary)
     
  • The entire climax, from the moment Suzy stabs Elena Markos

Many other scenes look stunning, and on balance I'd say more of the transfer looks good than not. However, it's worth pointing out that the overblown contrast can affect even the most seemingly innocuous shot. Enlarge the image below and you'll see that, while the overall balance looks more or less fine (the slightly too pink flesh tones aside), the lamp on the desk behind Joan Bennett looks as if it has been cut out and pasted on to the frame:

Suspiria

It's also worth pointing out that the drop to a seemingly lower resolution that occurs on the Italian disc at the end of Suzy's conversation with Madame Blanc (about the "secret iris") is carried over here:

Left: Italian; right: UK (click to enlarge)

Suspiria Suspiria

One final difference that I noticed is that the opening credits at the start of the film have been replaced on the UK release with what look like computer generated versions. The typeface is the same, but the gate weave and print damage that was to be found on the Italian version is now gone, resulting in the UK disc's credits looking a bit artifical and lifeless - think 2010 rather than 1977. The closing credits are identical on both discs.

I gave the Italian disc a 4/10 for video quality. On balance, I'm giving the UK version a 5/10, given that it corrects some of the more severe DVNR artefacts and also dials down the brightness, preventing the shadows from looking so washed out. However, it's important to stress that the blown out contrasts are worse now than ever, and I feel confident in stating that this is not how the film is supposed to look. I've said that so many times now, though, that to repeat myself again would be to sound like a broken record, so I'll stop now and sum up.

Overall

Distasteful brand name aside, there's a lot to commend in this release of Suspiria. The extras are intelligent and pleasingly in-depth in nature, and are not to be found anywhere else. Many dedicated fans will want to pick up a copy of this release for that reason alone. To add further accolades to this release, we have a truly great-sounding English language audio track for the first time since the Image Entertainment Laserdisc - and it even succeeds in blowing that out of the water. Watch the film on this BD and then try going back to the remix on the Anchor Bay DVD: if you can stomach the downgrade, then you have far greater stamina than me.

With a better transfer, this would have been the definitive release of Suspiria. Unfortunately, while some minor improvements have been made upon that of the Italian BD, this is sadly still the same bungled presentation that has been doing the rounds since 2007. I don't hold Nouveaux Pictures to blame in this regard. This is clearly the master they were handed by the licensor, and few independent labels are in a position to turn down what they're given. I doubt that they deliberately set out to mislead customers, although the promise of a "new high definition transfer" does leave something of a sour taste given that it has already appeared in at least three previous releases - two standard definition downconverts, one HD.

If you truly love Suspiria, my advice is to buy this disc. The extras are great, and it sounds better than it ever has done before on home video. Given how much of Suspiria's success is due to its soundtrack, the benefits of having a corrected audio mix should not be ignored, and I imagine that many people will feel that the improvements to the sound help compensate for the sometimes awful video. And it should be stressed that, a lot of the time, the image is not awful. As stated earlier, there are moments where you'll consider the transfer to be a thing of beauty. (Look at this shot and tell me it's not gorgeous.) Unfortunately, it's the moments of genuine splendour that lead to the poorer moments seeming like such a letdown, and the fact that many of what were once the most visually splendorous moments are the worst affected simply adds insult to injury.

If you think you can live with the image quality, by all means pick up this disc. Indeed, even if you just want the extras and are going to stick with your Anchor Bay DVD for the film itself, it's still worth the price. If, however, you're determined to hold out for a proper video presentation... well, I suspect you'll be in for a long wait.

 
42 Comments

1. FoxyMulder said:

Hi Michael

Some of the Italian BD links don't work.

Thanks for your review but i won't be buying this due to the botched transfer.

Great news about the sound but i just can't buy something so flawed. Hopefully by 2012 they might do another superior transfer for an anniversary release.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM)

2. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Links should be working properly now. That'll teach me for clicking "Post" without making sure all my URLs were correct.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 4:51 PM)

3. Bleddyn Williams said:

Thanks for the tremendous effort, Michael - worth waiting for! As expected, a mixed bag. I really loathe some of the 2007 look, but you certainly made a strong case for the new disc. If only the picture issues were less brutal, this would be a "buy immediately!"

As it stands, I think I'll wait for this one to go on sale.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM)

4. Spencer said:

Jeez boys, lighten up. I got this today and am impressed , turn the contrast down a little and it is mint, the picture is stunning, i have seen this film 50 odd times and i noticed details tonight that i never have before, actually the amped up colours sort of compliment the artifical look of the movie and together with the soundtrack it is an ESSENTIAL purchase.
You blu ray fan boys make me giggle, nothing is ever good enough for you.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 6:15 PM)

5. FoxyMulder said:

You can't just fix an issue like this by turning your contrast down.

Obviously you care little for quality and i'm not a "fanboy"

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 6:48 PM)

6. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Spencer, you're going to have to tell me where I can get one of those magic machines that resolves picture information that isn't actually there simply by turning down the contrast. I'll be sure to pick one up along with that Kool-Aid mega-pack I've had my eye on.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 6:50 PM)

7. Chris. said:

Spencer makes me giggle.

Do you alter your TV settings whenever you put a disc in?

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 6:50 PM)

I admit I'm tempted, but I think I'll be sticking with my Anchor Bay DVD.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 7:28 PM)

9. BobaFett said:

Yes, a lot of Suspiria's success is due to its soundtrack, but I think that even more of it is due to its fantastic cinematography. As some of the best moments seem to look absolutely terrible in the remastered 2007 version, I don't see me buying this disc.

IMO the errors in the soundtrack on the AB DVD are not as bad as the errors in the image are in the 2007 remaster. I already own the Image laserdisc in addition to the AB DVD and think I'll keep on waiting for a release with good audio _and_ image. Maybe I'd get this for a very low price from the bargain bin.

And yes, the tagline on the cover is indeed offensive to the film.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM)

10. Ronny said:

Seriously, the color scheme on the UK blu ray is an eye strain and way too extreme in some scenes. A damn shame that potentially elegant details get washed out. I'll be hanging on to my Anchorbay dvd set until someone gets it right. Thanks for the review.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM)

11. Pavlo said:

"Unfortunately, while some minor improvements have been made upon that of the Italian BD, this is sadly still the same bungled presentation that has been doing the rounds since 2007. I don't hold Nouveaux Pictures to blame in this regard. This is clearly the master they were handed by the licensor, and few independent labels are in a position to turn down what they're given."

I, on the otherhand, have no qualms about holding Nouveaux Pictures responsible for this disaster. Ultimately, they're the ones who are putting this product out there, under the dishonest guise of 'quality', and making a buck off unsuspecting consumers.

How can we expect anything to be done about this as long as the distributors continue to license the same rotten master? We've been served this dog's breakfast of a transfer, what, 3 or 4 times now - by labels who obviously don't care about the quality of their output. A permissive attitude on behalf of reviewers and consumers will only exacerbate things.

Nice review, by the way. Thanks for all your hard work.

(Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 4:51 AM)

12. Steve Guariento said:

Thanks for that extremely detailed overview of the pluses and minuses, Michael; the Nouveaux disc is on its way to me now, so I'll be able to experience its rollercoaster of quality control issues myself in due course.

One question: is the final shot (Suzy emerging from the Tanzakademie) still tinted red in the UK disc...? That's one of the most glaring errors in the Italian transfer, so it'll be a shame if that's still present and incorrect here.

Steve

(Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 10:13 AM)

13. Cbeck said:

Thanks for the review. I was about to order this and my mind is changed by some of those screen caps. That color is way too harsh and flat looking, there is no way the film is meant to look that way. The AB dvd is, despite the audio issues, still the one for me. I don't call this an upgrade.

(Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 6:28 PM)

14. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Steve:

That scene is indeed still red-tinted. For a while I did wonder if this was a deliberate piece of colour grading that AB had forgotten to apply to their master, but viewing my viewing of the Technicolor print put paid to that notion. It's the one instance in the new master that I think can genuinely be blamed on pure revisionism rather than speculating that it occurred as the result of some sort of fault.

(Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM)

15. Kentai said:

Thanks Michael, as always, for such an exhaustive review!

I'm glad to see that at least *some* of the issues of the Italian release are done away with. The extras alone are pretty tempting, and I'm sure that new 5.1 mix is a treat.

But why on Earth did they think that pushing the contrast even harder was a good idea? The gamma just looks crushed on the UK disc to me, too - it arguably helps the 'shadow man' and DVNR comparison shots, but it's doing no favors to the scene of Suzy talking with Madam Blanc. Hmm, now I wonder if this was done just to hide the enhanced noise in the boosted midtones left over from the initial contrast boosting? (It could even be a side-effect from the digital credits editing, now that I think of it.) The source is such a nasty mess that I suppose cranking the levels just slightly higher isn't doing much *more* harm, but still, insane.

Wow, that new cover art is a thing of beauty - 'till I get to the very bottom. Ugh. The BBFC logo is bad enough, but that tagline...

(Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 1:11 AM)

16. Crystal Plumage said:

How big is the chance Blue Underground will release this on Blue Ray and DVD in the near future?

CP

(Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM)

17. Wim C said:

@CP

Blue Underground no longer holds the rights to Suspiria. I think the Weinsteins are right-holders at the moment, if so - a US-release would be far off given their present financial problems. And if they'd decide to release it - you can almost be certain they'll simply use the existing transfer to cut costs.

(Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM)

18. Crystal Plumage said:

Bedankt Wim,
For some reason I already knew that, but totally forgot about that..

CP

(Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 7:28 PM)

19. Brian said:

My copy just arrived today, so I've just been skimming through a few scenes in preparation for my first watch tonight. As Michael and others have said, the beginning of the film fares far better than the later scenes. I'll still enjoy watching it though, as my Anchor Bay DVD was stolen a few years ago. The menu is nice and clean -glad they didn't put their 'Taking Crap Seriously' tag on there too.

Oh, and maybe just my player, but the disc is very noisy on boot up.

(Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 at 1:21 PM)

20. cbeck said:

I am curious, does anyone know how much space on the disc the film takes? Most of the screen captures I have seen here and elsewhere don't look that sharp for a blu-ray. Is any film grain noticeable?

(Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 at 6:04 PM)

21. Author Profile Page Michael said:

CBeck:

The file size for the film is 17.8 GB, which is pretty low but not, in my estimation, a cause for concern. I didn't spot any compression issues myself, and I suspect the sharpness issue is simply a matter of how the film looks. There are plenty of shots that do look very detailed (this one, for instance), and I'd be more inclined to suspect that the softer shots stem from lens-related issues.

Film grain is present, but it's fairly light, and I suspect it may have been digitally reduced.

(Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM)

22. cbeck said:

Thanks for the info. My eyes are seeing more detail on the AB transfer. I am guessing this is due to the brightness level washing it out on the BD and/or if grain was digitally reduced it also took some detail out as well.

That shot you linked is nice, but not enough to salvage this release for me. It only makes me wish the whole film looked as good. Thanks for your detailed work!

(Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 at 8:20 PM)

23. Vincent Pereira said:

Regarding film grain, Argento shot this on a VERY slow-speed film stock and used LOTS of light during photography, and as such the film would be naturally very finely grained. Any sharpness anamolies are most likely the cause of the Technovision anamorphic lenses that were used during filming.

Michael- I missed that screening of the I.B. Technicolor print in NYC :(

Vincent

(Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 12:52 AM)

24. Thomas Rostock said:

Huge thanks for an exhaustive and thorough review of Noveaux's new SUSPIRIA release, Michael. Not a stone left unturned there. The constrast-boosting is really, really terrible and I can see why many would prefer to pass on this DVD/Blu-Ray.

Like you write in the above, I wasn't expecting this release to improve much, if any, on the Italian and French HD DVD's, so I'm pleasantly surprised that the audio has been given a much needed overhaul. However, the sole reason for placing my order comes down to the Alan Jones/Kim Newman commentary track. Their verbal sparring on BU's BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE was wonderfully engaging and spirited and as I gather from your lines I won't be disappointed this time either.

PS: I also saw a portion (the opening dual murder scene) of the censored UK Technicolor print that you talk about projected in 35 mm at the Frightfest in 1996 at MOMI (with print damage and all) and can attest to the colors being much more compatible to the palette of the Anchor Bay DVD.

(Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 at 5:01 PM)

25. Anonymous said:

I think its silly to keep bringing up gamut or any format conversion as the reason for the colors. I always found that explanation ridiculous and ill-informed. Not amount of converting can blast the contrast out like that. Someone, somewhere, manually cranked the contrast and brightness settings.

(Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 4:47 AM)

26. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Anonymous:

Presumably you've never mismatched colour profiles in Photoshop, then. It's perfectly possible to create an effect just like what we're seeing with these releases of Suspiria, whereby data saved in a format with a wide gamut is transferred to a format with a narrower one, and instead of dithering or whatever, the extra information is simply discarded, creating unsightly posterisation. Of course, I'm not in any way trying to suggest that I know for sure that this is what happened, but it's the most convincing theory I've heard yet, particularly given that Tovoli supervised the HD master but supposedly isn't happy with how "hot" it looks on home video.

(Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM)

27. Vincent Pereira said:

I think ANONYMOUS just has a bone to pick with certain people (or a certain person), hence them posting as ANONYMOUS.

(Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 10:08 PM)

28. Anonymous said:

The same problem happening to the same movie twice in a row now? If it was a simple conversion issue I think we would have seen it happen a lot more often, considering how many other technically flawed Blu-rays have been released.

(Posted on Monday, February 1, 2010 at 4:05 AM)

29. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Anonymous:

"The same problem happening to the same movie twice in a row now?"

The problem has afflicted three separate releases now, actually (four if you count the Italian DVD and BD versions as separate entities), but I highly doubt they are creating a home video master from scratch every time a new edition is released. It's far more likely that there was a single botched conversion that has been the basis for every subsequent DVD and BD release.

"If it was a simple conversion issue I think we would have seen it happen a lot more often, considering how many other technically flawed Blu-rays have been released."

Who's to say it hasn't? Plenty of BDs have been released with excessive contrast boosting and clipping.

(Posted on Monday, February 1, 2010 at 9:51 AM)

30. Vincent Pereira said:

Heads up:

The February 2010 issue of AMERICAN CINEMATOGRAPHER (with THE WOLFMAN on the cover) has a very detailed retrospective article and interview with Luciano Tavoli regarding the filming of SUSPIRIA. It's a really great interview and chock full of information. There's even mention of the film coming out on Blu-ray "in the Spring". I wonder if this means a region A Blu-ray is in the works? The article has a BUNCH of printed frame-grabs that look like they came from a digital source, and they look nothing like the blown-out screen caps of the Italian and U.K. Blu-rays that I've seen.

Vincent

(Posted on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 1:28 AM)

31. Vincent Pereira said:

On-line version of that article complete with all the images:

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ac/ac0210/?ap=1#/72

(Posted on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 4:44 PM)

32. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Thanks for the link, Vincent - very interesting reading. However, I've a feeling these images were taken from the Anchor Bay DVD.

(Posted on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 6:39 PM)

33. Vincent Pereira said:

I don't think so, Michael. The resolution in the printed magazine is too high for these to be printed from DVD grabs.

Vincent

(Posted on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM)

34. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Good point - I hadn't thought of that. I was just going by the PDF version. If so, then it certainly bodes well for an eventual US BD release.

(Posted on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 10:16 PM)

35. Vincent Pereira said:

Hey Mike,

I was wrong, it seems American Cinematographer does credit those images to Anchor Bay.

BTW, does the Italian disc have the speed up during the end credits that the British one seems to have? Looks very weird, about halfway through the credits suddenly seem to speed up, then return to normal speed during the final few seconds.

Vincent

(Posted on Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 6:31 PM)

36. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Vincent:

Do you have any idea whether or not the master Anchor Bay used for their release was high definition? In 2001, I suppose it would still be pretty rare for a "cult" film to get the HD treatment... but then again, Bill Lustig has always been ahead of the curve as far as the "cult" labels are concerned. I know Deep Red, Phenomena and Tenebrae definitely didn't get HD masters at the time.

The credits do scroll at a somewhat uneven speed, don't they? Yeah, the same issue is present on the Italian BD and also the "definitive edition" DVD derived from the same master.

(Posted on Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 6:42 PM)

37. Vincent Pereira said:

I really don't know, Michael. It's possible it was a 1080I transfer, and as such probably wouldn't translate too well to Blu-ray. At the very least I suspect it was probably a PAL transfer since they also issued it in the U.K. Some months back the U.S. cut of SUSPIRIA aired on HD Cinemax I believe. It'd be interesting to see what that master looks like (I read that the HD airing was cropped to 1.78:1, but the master could still have been fully letterboxed). I'd imagine Fox must have been supplied an InterPositive back in 1977 when they bought the U.S. rights to the film.

Vincent

(Posted on Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 8:07 PM)

38. Vincent Pereira said:

I just noticed a dropped line of dialogue on the U.K. Blu-ray. When it cuts to Madame Blank and Suzie sitting at the table and talking, the scene should start with Madame Blank saying, "What is it? Is something wrong?" On the Blu-ray, "What is it?" is missing. Interestingly, this is where the side change occurs on the Image LaserDisc of SUSPIRIA (side wo starts with the scene at the table), which makes me wonder if that LaserDisc soundtrack might b the source for the DTS soundtrack on the BD. I also noticed that both the LD and Blu-ray have the same static "pop" during the shot when the camera is tracking down the hallway towards the window in the Tanz Akadamie after the scene where Sarah is counting the footsteps in Suzie's room.

Vincent

(Posted on Sunday, February 7, 2010 at 9:35 PM)

39. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Well spotted, Vincent. I never noticed that. Can you remember if the "What is it?" line was also missing on the LD?

(Posted on Monday, February 8, 2010 at 11:22 AM)

40. Vincent Pereira said:

The line is there on the LD, just as side 2 starts playing. My guess is that it might have been dropped when they were editing the sound from side 1 and 2 of the LD together.

Vincent

(Posted on Monday, February 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM)

41. Keven Gash said:

The RSS feed on your site won't work with my browser (Google Chrome) would you know how I can get it to work?

(Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 8:54 PM)

42. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Kevin:

I've just checked - it doesn't work for me in Chrome either. Oddly enough, it's fine in both Internet Explorer and Firefox. I'll look into it.

(Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 9:59 PM)

 
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