Monday, May 10, 2010

BD impressions: The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

7:29 PM / BD Impressions / Comments16 Comments

BD Impressions
Blu-ray

THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNASSUS is typical Terry Gilliam: imaginative, unconventional and downright frustrating. I've only seen a handful of the man's films, but I can't recall ever liking a single one of them unconditionally. For me, they all contain moments of audacity and greatness, but before too long they invariably fall apart, collapsing under the weight of their own aspirations.

Of course, DOCTOR PARNASSUS will probably be remembered first and foremost as the film that very nearly wasn't to be, given Heath Ledger's untimely death mid-production. Interestingly, however, for all its problems, Ledger's death, and Gilliam's solution to the problem of losing his mid-actor before the shoot wrapped, isn't one of them. In fact, the use of Johnny Depp, Jude Law and Colin Farrell to complete the film is actually rather an inspired choice. (Although I must confess that I didn't realise the man I was watching was Depp rather than Ledger until about half-way through his sequence. Law and Farrell, on the other hand, are far more instantly recognisable.) Still, the biggest revelation in terms of the cast comes in the form of Lily Cole, a most unconventional-looking model, as Dr. Parnassus' daughter Valentina. As I understand it, she had no prior acting experience, but she comes across as a complete natural, and I predict that she has big things ahead of her.

On the whole, though, I feel inclined to suggest that DOCTOR PARNASSUS might be most charitably described as "interesting". It doesn't really work as a whole, and the over-abundance of CGI gives the film a fakeness that it could have done without. Gilliam badly needed to sell the film's fantasy worlds as tangible, believable places, but instead they simply come across as synthetic and oddly weightless. Say what you like about AVATAR (and believe me, I did), but at least James Cameron was able to create a convincing alternate world. Then again, he had eight times the budget to work with...

Image quality: For pricing reasons, I decided to go with Lions Gate's UK release of THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNASSUS rather than the US version from Sony Pictures. In retrospect, this was a mistake. While there are undoubtedly some positives in this image, they are overshadowed by what I believe is the worst compression I have ever seen on an AVC title - yes, potentially even worse than that of THE GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE and THE GIRL WHO KICKED THE HORNETS' NEST. Virtually every image below suffers from noticeable artefacting. This is not deliberate on my part - it's simply down to the fact that this is what most of the film looks like. Skin takes on a smudgy appearance, fabric degenerates into sludge, and grain takes on a stucco-like effect. Many of the wide shots fare absolutely dreadfully, with close-ups generally looking a bit better. It's not as if it's a particularly long film, and the bit rate seems pretty high, so we can't claim that the film was starved for space. It looks simply to be a case of good old fashioned bad encoding, and as such should have been rejected out of hand. 5/10

The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
studio: Lions Gate; country: UK; region code: B; codec: AVC;
file size: 30.7 GB; average bit rate (including audio): 35.93 Mbit/sec

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16 Comments

Do you feel that way about Brazil and 12 Monkeys?

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 1:05 AM)

Wow, that's pretty interesting. I guess another concrete lesson that bitrate isn't everything with the UK video bitrate being about 75% higher than the US. I have to wonder what went wrong in the encoding process of the Lions Gate UK BD?

It looks like I managed to capture one of the exact same frames as you from the Sony US BD (and I should note that this is an I-frame):

http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus/12861/screenshot-lrg-15.png

...as compared to...

http://www.landofwhimsy.com/hdcaptures/parnassus9.jpg

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 2:44 AM)

3. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Daniel:

Ah, now those are two that I haven't seen.


Cinema Squid:

Mine is an I-frame as well, believe it or not. Something must have gone horribly wrong with the UK encode.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM)

4. Marcus said:

Which ones did you see? Though lately he has been doing a lot of uneven films, Brazil IMO is his masterpiece and his Monty Python work is must-see.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM)

Marcus:

I agree and most people would - Brazil is his best film. Can't wait til Criterion puts out a BD!

Agreed on Monty Python.

Michael:

Get on seeing those - they're both excellent!

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM)

6. FoxyMulder said:

My favourite is The Fisher King.

I like Brazil a lot though, i also liked The Brothers Grimm even though a lot of people seemed to dislike it.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM)

7. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

I've heavily enjoyed everything I've seen by Gilliam, Brazil the most out of any so far. Likewise looking forward to a Criterion Blu-ray of that.

The US BD of Parnassus looks all right, and definitely better than the UK one based on that screencap comparison. It's sad that "good enough" and "better than the DVD" kind of satisfies me lately. I just want films I like in the best quality available. I really liked Parnassus when I saw it in the theater, so I'd like to pick this up at some point. And yes, the three additional lead actors work wonderfully—I feared the film would be doomed after Ledger's death. And Lily Cole is very pleasing to the eyes.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM)

Here's what went wrong: they used a shit encoder. Sony Pictures will almost certainly have used Blu-code, one of the best.

(Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM)

9. Crystal Plumage said:

Michael,

Way OT, and I apologize, but I have to ask. Are you going to review the Arrow / Blue Underground "City of the Living Dead" Blu (or DVD) ?

I have seen some screenshots and tried to look through "McKenzie eyes" and although I know nothing about this medium, I think it looks like shit:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews51/city_of_the_dead_blu-ray/large/large_city_of_the_living_dead_blu-ray5.jpg

Very smeary and lacking detail. In fact, although the AB release is darker, it is much more detailed (to my eyes).
I just wondered if it's the screenshots that are bad or the actual disc.


Thanks!

CP

(Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 at 10:31 PM)

10. paku said:

Something must have happened recently at Lionsgate. Look at the screenshots from the upcoming The Spy Next Door:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Spy-Next-Door-Blu-ray-Screenshots/10305/

Similar type of crappy compression artifacts everywhere. I'll probably stay away from Lionsgate for the time being.

(Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 1:52 PM)

11. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Marcus:

I've seen:

MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL
THE ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN
FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS
TIDELAND
THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNARRUS

(and LIFE OF BRIAN, although I know he didn't direct it - curiously, it's my favourite of the bunch)


Crystal Plumage:

I've not seen it yet, no, and to be honest I was planning on picking up the Blue Underground version anyway. Those captures do look pretty bad, but I'm not sure whether it's down to some sort of digital manipulation, or the encoding, or something else entirely. I think I'll wait till I see it in motion before saying any more.

(Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM)

Re: COTD...

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/City-of-the-Living-Dead-Blu-ray-Review/9535/

Probably can't judge by those screen caps, but the BU BD is probably going to look similar to the Arrow BD. I read in numerous places that they are sharing the same transfer, but they each have exclusive extras.

From what I can tell, all but one extra feature is in HD, which means they will play on US PS3s, because the Arrow BDs are region-free (I have their Dawn & Day OTD BDs).

Personally, I'm going to import the Arrow BD first, and get around to getting the BU BD when the price lowers. I want both - I'm a big Fulci fan!

(Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 1:54 AM)

13. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Daniel:

Judging by the captures, the BU release has much better encoding than the Arrow version. That said, DVD Beaver tends to over-compress their screenshots, so they generally aren't all that useful as a means of judging the standard of encoding.

(Posted on Friday, May 14, 2010 at 8:37 AM)

14. But both versions basically look the same? said:

I'm trying to determine what the supposed issue is with the Lionsgate version of Parnassus, compared with the Sony version, that a few of you are seeing? "Skin takes on a smudgy appearance, fabric degenerates into sludge, and grain takes on a stucco-like effect"; but looking at the fabric on the Sony version, it doesn't look any less "sludge" like, at least not to my eyes? Also the Lionsgate grabs are all jpgs, while the Sony ones from CinemaSquid are pngs, does that make for a fair comparison?

I'd really appreciate it if you guys would point out the differences a bit more clearly, so that I can see exactly what it is you all have an issue with, before I decide which version to get.

Cheers.

(Posted on Friday, June 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM)

15. Author Profile Page Michael said:

The "supposed" issue with the Lions Gate release is the dreadful encoding. It really is abysmal - some of the worst I've ever seen on a BD. I can only reiterate what I've already said (and what you've already quoted): textures are sludgy, skin is mushy and plasticky, and the grain is poorly resolved. (Can you see the stucco-like effect in the background of this shot? The whole disc is like that.) I know some people are happy with the Lions Gate release and don't see any problems with it, in which case I'm pleased for them, but I personally consider this disc's encoding to be so bad that I'm amazed it made it through quality control.

As for the whole JPG vs. PNG issue, I've addressed that debate here and here.

Hope this helps. :)

(Posted on Friday, June 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM)

16. But both versions basically look the same? said:

Thanks Michael, for the prompt response.

Yes, I can clearly see the stucco-like effect in the background of the shot you linked to. :-)

The point I was making though, is not that I think that the Lionsgate version is a particularly good encode, it's that I'm seeing similar (compression?) artefacts in the Sony grabs as well.

It'd be very useful if CinemaSquid could (if he has the time) post some more of the same frames you've posted, to better compare the encodes.

(Posted on Friday, June 4, 2010 at 8:43 PM)

 
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