Sunday, September 12, 2010

BD impressions: Se7en

8:59 PM / BD Impressions / Comments13 Comments

BD Impressions
Blu-ray

Hmm... something tells me this movie didn't get offered the chance to take advantage of the City of New York's tax break programme for movies. ;) This film doesn't really need any introduction, given that it's one of the most highly regarded - and yes, genuinely one of the best - horror thrillers of the 90s, so I'm not going to say too much about it (especially given that I need to have some material left over for my review spot in an upcoming podcast venture in which I'm involved - stay tuned for more info on that). But basically - yeah, terrific movie, and now available on a terrific BD.

Image quality: There have been a handful of BD releases of SE7EN now, including a 1080i, open matte affair from Alliance Atlantis in Canada and a fairly serviceable OAR release in the Netherlands from RCV. The latter was derived from the same master used for the 2000 2-disc New Line Platinum Series DVD, for which the entire negative was scanned at 2K resolution and regraded and reframed to director David Fincher's notoriously exacting standards. Flash forward to 2010 and the whole thing has been rescanned, regraded and reframed AGAIN, with Fincher at the helm once more.

As a result, there are some noticeable differences between this and the previous master, and you might want to check out my captures from the RCV release for comparative purposes (I've duplicated some of the same frames here). It seems fairly pointless to speculate as to which of the two is "correct", given that they both constitute revisionism to a certain extent and were both supervised and approved by the same man. The bottom line is that the new release is darker, more saturated and more contrasty, and I know for a fact that some people are going to take issue with that, feeling that Fincher may have gone too far with the darker scenes (which basically account for more than half the movie). The blacks are now REALLY black, and some shadow detail is lost as a result. I get the impression it's the look Fincher has been shooting for since 1995, however: he has spoken on quite a few occasions about wishing he could get the blacks so solid that they were indistinguishable from the darkness of the movie theatre.

Questions of authenticity aside, I don't think anyone will deny that this is a stunning-looking disc. Detail is outstanding, encoding is well-handled (keep it up, Warner) and the grain looks natural and film-like. I get the impression that a few scenes have been grain reduced (see Example 10), but the selective nature of this makes me lean towards this being a stylistic choice rather than a case of some numpty playing with the controls. Scenes like the one where Brad Pitt enters the lawyer's office (victim #2), which were always pretty heavy in the grain department, are still pretty grainy. I honestly had no complaints when watching this disc, so I'm going to award it a coveted 10/10.

Se7en
studio: New Line/Warner; country: USA; region code: ABC; codec: VC-1;
file size: 33.7 GB; average bit rate (including audio): 38.09 Mbit/sec

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13 Comments

1. Kram Sacul said:

Even with the intentionally clipped shadow detail it looks damn impressive. Dark City could've looked this good but they let Gumby supervise it.

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 2:11 AM)

2. ChuckZ said:

I'm sure that Fincher oversaw QC otherwise this disc might have turned into a mushy disaster.

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 3:20 AM)

"What's in the boooox?"

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 3:37 AM)

4. Author Profile Page Bydo said:

Does anyone know if the UK version, out in October, will be the same transfer?

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 12:54 PM)

5. Ronny said:

It's wonderful to see Fincher titles looking so beautiful on Blu Ray.

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 12:55 PM)

6. bosque said:

As I recall, some theatrical prints of Seven made use of an early bleach-bypass-like process which highlighted silver light in the frame image (can't remember what the technical terms are). This was eventually mimicked on a late 90s "double-dip" VHS release. It appears to have been a difficult effect to get right on the home-video format and wasn't advertised as appearing on any of the various DVD releases in the 2000s. Fincher or his cinematographer may refer to this on one of the multiple commentary tracks. Be interesting to know if it was attempted on this latest Blu-Ray release.

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM)

7. Erik said:

According to "dvdmike," the Blu-ray has that CCE (Color Contrast Enhancement) look again. He explains the process rather well here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyZKLrDkSdY

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 2:55 PM)

Looks a must-buy. Where do you usually get your overseas Blu-rays from, Michael?

(Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 at 6:27 PM)

9. Toecutter said:

What subtitles are included on this BD? Will be telling on which countries get this exact disc.

(Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 11:04 AM)

10. Erik said:

English and Spanish. Warner discs tend to be used in a lot of countries with the exact same video, at least. Sometimes Entertainment in Video used to release them in the UK, with minor changes, not sure if those guys are still around.

(Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 5:06 PM)

11. gaeljet said:

must be the us edition

(Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM)

12. FoxyMulder said:

According to this site here are the features for the UK edition coming on October 4th.

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/12454992/Seven/Product.html

Is this likely to be the new Warner transfer, like Erik said i believe Entertainment In Video used to have the rights to this for the UK but i'm not sure if the transfers were always the same.

I guess the transfers may have been the same but will the encoding be the same, as seen on some other releases such as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, sometimes the encoding lets the side down with some UK releases.

(Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM)

13. Steini said:

Michael, are you gonna pick up Shutter Island?

(Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 at 6:41 PM)

 
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