Thursday, September 16, 2010

Some thoughts on Arrow Video's new Inferno BD

9:26 PM / BD Impressions / Blu-ray / Comments35 Comments

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The release of Dario Argento's INFERNO on BD is a double cause for celebration. Not only is it the first high definition release of the film anywhere in the world, it's also the first time it has been released uncut in the UK (those few crucial seconds of mouse-chewing are now restored, a testament to the tendency of the British Board of Film Censors' standards to change with the wind). The film's predecessor, SUSPIRIA, experienced something of a problematic BD release via Nouveaux Pictures thanks to the creation in 2007 of an HD master that took considerable liberties with the film's look... so how does the sequel measure up?

The packaging

The cover design fits the mould of previous Arrow Video BD releases like CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD and DAWN OF THE DEAD, and I'm sure everyone has formed their own opinions on it by now. Personally, while I'm not a fan of the deliberate attempt to recreate the trashy look of 80s VHS covers (I'm considerably more appreciative of the more "tasteful" approach taken by the likes of Camera Obscura with their Italian Genre Cinema Collection), I can understand why they've gone down this route from a marketing standpoint... and hey, at least they don't call the film they're selling you "trash", as Nouveaux Pictures did with SUSPIRIA. For that alone Arrow deserves some kudos.

And yes, the newly commissioned artwork by Rick Melton is, erm, questionable to say the least. I can appreciate the craftsmanship that went into it in much the same way that I can appreciate the craftsmanship of a film like TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN - in that talented individuals clearly put a lot of work into their respective specialities - but the end result just doesn't work. Simply put, it's not INFERNO. If you flip the case round inside the translucent sleeve, you can proudly display the original Italian poster artwork, although if you take it out of the sleeve you're still faced with the tacky new artwork on the back. The reverse side of the sleeve, which shows the Spanish theatrical poster and Greek video cover on the left and right side respectively, seems a tad pointless, but three cheers for freedom of choice.

Also included in the package are a fold-out poster with the Melton art on one side and a reproduction of one of the UK quads on the other, six postcards consisting of Italian, French, German and English promotional art, and an eight-page booklet containing a new essay by Alan Jones. All in all, some nice goodies.

The extras

This is a 2-disc release, consisting of a dual layer BD-50 containing the film and the majority of the new bonus features (presented in high definition), plus a single layer DVD-5 containing a number of features that have previously been released elsewhere (all standard defition, obviously). These include the DARIO ARGENTO: AN EYE FOR HORROR documentary which has appeared on so many DVD releases I've now lost track, the 9-minute Argento/Lamberto Bava interview from the Anchor Bay DVD, the Argento trailer reel that Arrow includes on all its Argento DVD releases, and the International and Spanish theatrical trailers.

On to the newly produced extras on the BD, and I've noticed a few people claiming that these are merely standard definition upconverted to 1080p. There is no truth in this. The various film clips that are interspersed throughout the features are definitely standard definition (and very poor-looking standard definition at that), but the interviews themselves are unquestionably HD. On the other hand, they are afflicted by some pretty hefty video noise, particularly the Luigi Cozzi interview, shot in the basement of Argento's Profondo Rosso store, so I can see perhaps where the confusion has come from. It's not very pretty HD, but HD nonetheless.

Having said that, my biggest issue with the extras is not so much the image quality, which doesn't really impact on the enjoyment of the material itself (more on it in a bit) too much, but rather the graphics used for the opening and closing credits and the various still frames and captions with which the interview footage is intercut. The graphics seem to be going for a children's scissor art style, in keeping with INFERNO's status as a sort of adult fairytale, but unfortunately a lot of the time the artwork, combined with computer animation effects applied to it, leans towards tacky. If used in moderation, this would have been less of a problem, but way too much time has been devoted to it: for example, of the 19-minute Daria Nicolodi featurette, a full one and a half minutes are taken up by the opening credits and a further 40 seconds by the closing credits. It's just excessive and would have remained so even if the production values had been much higher.

Thankfully, it's worth persevering, because the material itself is very good. In the 16-minute DARIO's INFERNO, Argento is as cagey as ever about the meanings behind his spellbinding visuals, but he tells some amusing stories about then-president of Fox Sherry Lansing's reaction to the film, as well as recounting his reasons for taking so long to complete the trilogy with MOTHER OF TEARS. INFERNO has always struck me as being the film Argento seems least willing to discuss, and given it's cryptic nature and steadfast refusal to make any sense I'm inclined to think he's being deliberately evasive about it - which is perhaps as it should be. As such, it's arguably one of the less enlightening interviews the maestro has given, but it's still well worth the watch.

In the 19-minute ACTING IN HOT WATER, Daria Nicolodi is her usual eccentric self (and I mean that in a good way), talking both about the film itself and about the whole ordeal surrounding her authorship of SUSPIRIA, as well as discussing in loving detail her experiences working with the legendary Mario Bava and giving her opinion of MOTHER OF TEARS (I won't spoil it for those of you who haven't got the disc yet). All in all I really enjoyed this one.

Frequent Argento collaborator Luigi Cozzi shows up for the 16-minute THE OTHER MOTHER: MAKING THE BLACK CAT, in which he discusses his unofficial 1989 sequel to INFERNO. I haven't personally seen the film, but it looks... interesting to say the least, judging by the clips shown here. That said, perhaps the most entertaining part of the interview comes during the closing credits, when Argento is shown being asked whether he has ever seen Cozzi's effort. Again, I won't spoil it for you.

Finally, we get a half-hour Q&A session recorded at the New Beverly Cinema in Los Angeles, featuring MARIO BAVA: ALL THE COLORS OF THE DARK author Tim Lucas, INFERNO composer Keith Emerson and star Irene Miracle. I'd previously seen this Q&A on YouTube with considerably weaker video and audio quality and was very happy to revisit it here with this upgraded presentation. It's all great stuff and in many ways the highlight of the package. (Note that this featurette and only this one is encoded at 1080i 60 Hz.)

Presentation complaints aside, I'm very happy with this line-up of extras. It's a shame we didn't get another excellent Alan Jones/Kim Newman commentary like the ones found on SUSPIRIA and THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE, but I don't suppose we can have everything.

The sound

A nice, all-encompassing array of audio options here, all of them lossless - hear that, Blue Underground? ;) We get the original English stereo mix, the original Italian mono mix, and a 5.1 English remix, all in DTS-HD Master Audio, accompanied by English subtitles for either the English or the Italian dialogue. The English stereo tracked was my preferred viewing option, though I sampled all three and was particularly pleased to see the inclusion of the Italian track for completeness' sake. The 5.1 remix tends to sound a little on the artificial side, spreading the audio across the front three channels. It also sounds considerably thinner than its stereo counterpart, although in terms of bass it does have a bit of added "oomph", particularly for Keith Emerson's score, that will probably be appreciated by those who don't mind losing a bit of the original audio's "purity". It sounds to my ears to be the same one included (albeit in lossy form) on the Anchor Bay DVD - certainly, it has that noticeable "skip" in the music during the first shot of the film. It's also worth pointing out that the English stereo track has a bit more audible hiss and crackle than its 5.1 counterpart, which may sway things for some viewers.

Overall, no major complaints here. INFERNO never really had an equivalent to the debacle surrounding the Anchor Bay SUSPIRIA remix, so there was a whole lot less chance of things going wrong here than there were for that film.

The video

This is where Nouveaux Pictures' release of SUSPIRIA fumbled, and unfortunately the same is true of INFERNO... albeit for different reasons. The source used here is the same high definition master that was prepared by 20th Century Fox/MGM in 2007 and found its way on to the Italian Fox DVD of the same year... albeit with what looks like a heavy-handed layer of additional digital manipulation. Don't bother looking for film grain: a lot of the time, there basically isn't any, except for some heavier stuff in the shadows. Static shots, such as the close-up of the knife that opens the film, look uncannily like video freeze-frames because literally all the grain has been sucked out, and slow pans generally leave trails of mushy grain. Gabriele Lavia's face looks waxy, and the chequered pattern on his shirt smears whenever he moves. The lengthy underwater sequence fares particularly poorly, with copious amounts of smearing and trailing. This sequence is obviously meant to look murky, but not in this way. It's been a while since I saw noise reduction this overzealous, and while it's not quite on the level of PATTON or the remastered edition of PREDATOR - both crimes against cinema - someone somewhere clearly dropped the ball. There's light DNR to clear up dirt and scratches, and then there's grain scrubbing taken to excess. This is the latter.

On a more positive note, the BD offers a clear improvement in terms of detail over the Italian DVD. Taking into account that the film is unlikely to have ever been razor-sharp in the manner of a modern, DI-sourced title, the image looks pretty crisp if a little on the murky side... though I'm unsure as to how much of this can be blamed on the digital manipulation and how much is simply down to the film's look. I suspect it was always a naturally soft-looking film, but when robbed of its natural grain texture this becomes all the more readily apparent. There is also some noticeable ringing around high contrast edges, but again I'm not sure whether this was digitally induced or the result of the optical process. Either way, it could have been far worse.

The compression is solid, although after the NR there can't really have been anything left to give the encoder trouble anyway. Colours, brightness etc. are identical to those found on the Fox DVD. I've noticed some people claiming that the BD looks darker and others that it looks brighter. I can only assume that they have the inputs to which their DVD player and BD player connected are calibrated differently, because I've been through multiple identical frames from both with the eyedropper tool in Photoshop and there is no difference. Full stop.

Of course, this means that the colour values are dramatically different from the 2000 Anchor Bay DVD, derived from a standard definition DigiBeta master. That release was considerably more saturated, some might argue to the point of oversaturation. There has been a lot of back and forth on which (if either) colour palette is correct, and I'm going to hold off on making any claims on that front for the time being, but should point out that I've discussed the matter at some length with Thomas Rostock from Another World Entertainment, and he is of the opinion that the look of the Anchor Bay DVD is more accurate. Certainly Thomas has actually seen the film projected theatrically from a 35mm print, which is a pleasure I'm sorry to say I've yet to experience.

I've decided to share a portion of what Thomas told me:

Having plowed through several VHS, Laserdisc and film-print incarnations of this the director's most accomplished visual achievement (seeing this on the big screen by way of the excellent UK print in circulation around 1995 was truly an astonishing experience for me. Totally blew me away in a way SUSPIRIA couldn't even begin to match), I must say that look of the Anchor Bay DVD of 2000 actually fares much closer to Romano Albani's intended look than the new MGM/FOX. Romano Albani along with Argento worked hard to achieve a fuller, more lush look than SUSPIRIA using in particular the two new lighting color gels named Rose and Deep Blue introduced into the market in 1979.

[...]

In short, Rose and Deep Blue are the governing colors of INFERNO. However, the MGM/FOX transfer suppresses exactly these two colors to the point oblivion (Rose) and to a dull, faded hue (Deep Blue) [...] If one is aware of literally the hours it can take to light with different color-gels on a film-set, it is especially disheartening to witness MGM/FOX's negligent attitude towards the intended color-specific look of INFERNO. But perhaps even worse is the fact that this is the only transfer making its rounds to all corners of the world commercially through MGM's cost-efficent licensing and will stand as a misrepresentation of the real beautiful and haunting color-scheme that is at the very heart and soul of INFERNO. One can voice many a fault about William Lustig's AB/BU releases, but on the visual, color-correctional side of things, he has yet to make mistake.

I've included some captures below comparing the 2007 Fox DVD (upscaled to 1920x1080) to the 2010 Arrow BD. Note that there is a small amount of cropping on all four sides on the BD compared to the DVD. I'm not sure why the image has been zoomed in, but it's worth stressing that the difference is pretty minor - certainly a far cry from Optimum's BD release of NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD.

DVD (20th Century Fox, Region 2 Italy)

Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD) Inferno (DVD)

BD (Arrow Video, Region ABC UK)

Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD) Inferno (BD)

Overall

The first ever BD release of INFERNO could have been something really special in the looks department. Instead, it's basically a case of "It'll do until something better comes along." There are a number of other BD releases of the film in the pipeline, including discs from Another World Entertainment, Camera Obscura and Blue Underground, so there are plenty more opportunities for someone to get it right.

Still, for what it's worth, Arrow have served up some interesting extras, which get a definite thumbs-up from me and which I can't imagine too many Argento connoisseurs passing up the opportunity to check out. On the other hand, given the image quality, I can't say I'm too eager to encourage everyone to rush out and pick up a copy, particularly with three rival BD releases in the pipeline. Perhaps one for a rental... or at the very least wait and see what the other labels come up with before committing to a purchase?

The bottom line: audio - good, extras - good (despite some presentation issues), video - not so good.

 
35 Comments

1. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

Erm... I'll wait to see what Blue Underground does with the title.

(Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 at 9:47 PM)

2. Crystal Plumage said:

[i]"Erm... I'll wait to see what Blue Underground does with the title."[/i]

Probably just add some grain...

Personally I'm looking forward to the Camera Obscura DVD. That's the only one supervised and colour corrected by Albani. Will see what he does with it.

(Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 at 10:37 PM)

3. Anonymous said:

Thanks for the heads up. Found the brightness/darkness issue particularly illuminating. :)

"I'm not a fan of the deliberate attempt to recreate the trashy look of 80s VHS covers"

(You may want to censor this some of this...)

Couldn't agree more, fucking horrible. Truly shows the mentality of the folks behind these Arrow releases, wish they'd grow the fuck up. Ditto with those actual few muppets who somehow rave about Rick Melton's 2 to 3 hour scrawlings.

And yes, a Jones/Newman commentary could truly have made this an essential 'keeping' version...

Until the last few days, a moderator on Cult-Labs (Arrow) has had the following signature - 'Want to see what blu-ray is capable of? Watch Arrow's Inferno.' Think it's gone now.

Here's a link to the rather hopelessly sycophantic (imho) Arrow forum, and their verdicts on this release:

http://www.cult-labs.com/forums/inferno/3548-inferno-now-you-own-your-reactions.html

(Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 at 10:45 PM)

4. Ben said:

When I saw INFERNO in a theater the same year MOTHER OF TEARS was released theatrically in the US (08? 09?), INFERNO resembled the Italian dvd much moreso than the US dvd(s). Don't know if the print was struck from the new Italian master, or if it really was accurate then. But, just something to add to the mix.

(Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 at 11:25 PM)

5. Ronny said:

I'm really disappointed with the Arrow Blu Ray transfer. The older Anchorbay dvd was much more accurate in terms of colors...I've seen it a couple of times at the theater and the colors were really vibrant and striking. I hope the Blue Underground Blu Ray gets it right.

(Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 3:54 AM)

6. Danno said:

Disappointing to hear (see) the image quality is not up to scratch. Especially since I broke my own golden rule on this one and bought blind.

As you've said, there are the other yet-to-be-released versions of this to come. That said, now that we're in the era of a universal video standard for HD (well, 1080p24 anyhow) I get the feeling that for the most part we'll just end up with different releases sourced from the same master albeit with a little bit of tweaking here and there. I feel this is especially likely to be the case for these smaller, less mainstream pics.

(Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM)

7. tw said:

I hope Arrow answer as to why this was slightly zoomed and I hope the other releases are NOT.

(Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 4:05 PM)

8. Kentai said:

The DVD caps look equally scrubbed to me; I just don't see any more film grain or fine detail, just some added dithering and a bit of compression garbage. This leaves me to worry that the HD master itself has been grain managed, so every version we get will be infected with DVNR. I'll be very curious to see how the Cinema Obscura transfer turns out in comparison, but at best I assume it'll be a tweaked version of the very same elements.

With the multitude of releases waiting to come out, I guess there's no harm in waiting for the dust to settle and picking the version with either the least unimpressive transfer, or the more interesting features. This wasn't a favorite of mine anyway when I saw it a few years back, so as much as I want to give it a second chance, it's hard to get enthused too hard by these screencaps. (Thanks for them, though!)

(Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 9:26 PM)

9. Anonymous said:

Apparently Arrow commissioned further restoration work by two individual companies according to a senior at Cult-Labs.

Considering the release looks like a cleaner, marginally more detailed version of the Fox DVD, I'd imagine (if the report is true) some scrubbing took place. Shame for purists and/or videophiles, really.

(Posted on Friday, September 17, 2010 at 11:11 PM)

10. Nilo said:

Anonymous:

[i]Apparently Arrow commissioned further restoration work by two individual companies according to a senior at Cult-Labs.[/i]

This is correct. I have it on good autority that the master Arrow received was considerably less scrubbed than what ended up on the bluray.

(Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 7:05 AM)

11. BobaFett said:

I don't know how the Camera Obscura Blu-ray disc will turn out to be, but the link to Michael's review of the Arrow release was posted over at Cinefacts.de in Camera Obscura's subforum, where they responded to it with the following:

"Yes, the Arrow disc is in parts rather filtered to death and for the greatest part very flat in terms of color as well (more so than the Italian DVD which is often critizised for this). This is not going to be the case with us. We have a heart for grain." (translated from German to English)

I don't want to promote their release here, as I have no idea how it will turn out, but reading this makes me very excited. Their transfer has also been approved by cinematographer Romano Albani. :)

And should they screw the film, too, we can still hope that Blue Underground do it right next year.

(Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 5:16 PM)

12. Anonymous said:

Incredible release from Arrow, i have never seen Inferno look so good. But yup the cover (which can be easily switched) is pretty crap!
I'll be buying a lot more from this company.

(Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM)

13. Kentai said:

Now I'm very curious to see how the Cinema Obscura release turns out.

I stand by the above Fox DVD caps looking pretty grainless, though. Maybe it's a bit less static in motion than the BD? DVNR can certainly be spotted in still frames, but they're never able to convey the whole problem on their own.

(Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM)

14. FoxyMulder said:

I won't argue about the grain scrubbing and the potential for improvement being there but please folks can you refrain from remarks such as "marginally better than the DVD" because that's just nonsense and i hear that sort of talk far too often on forums.

Look at screencap 9 and the shirt the guy is wearing, where before it was mush you now see a striped pattern, look at other screencaps and the DVD shots all have that lower quality blurriness to them.

From what BobaFett says it looks like there could be a better release on the way, indeed Blue Underground may also do better, i have Dead and Buried coming soon and i hear that's a pretty decent release.

(Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2010 at 9:11 PM)

15. Kentai said:

Agreed, Foxy.

If you want to see a truly marginal improvement from DVD to Blu-ray, check out Bad Lieutenant, or Return of the Living Dead, both of which look virtually identical to their SD counterparts.

(Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 12:58 AM)

16. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Anonymous (commenter #3):

Hmm yes, there's a reason I tend to avoid joining forums that are actually operated by the DVD/BD companies themselves. It just seems so much harder to be objective when the moderators themselves have a vested interest in promoting their own product. Obviously I'm not accusing the Cult Labs people of any dodgy dealings (I've only ever visited their forum a couple of times), but I do think the ownership of a forum has a major impact on the sort of comments people will post on it.


TW:

Honestly, the slight zooming in is a very minor point and well within what I would consider the "tolerance levels" for framing. It's not as if massive chunks of the image are missing, and to be honest you're always going to get slight variances between releases. I only find it odd here because both the DVD and the BD were so clearly taken from the same master.


Kentai:

I'm generally slightly wary of taking the amount of grain on a DVD as indicative of how much grain was present on the master itself. But yes, in motion, considerably more grain can clearly be seen on the Fox DVD. I wouldn't go as far as to say that this makes the DVD SUPERIOR - the improvement in detail on the BD is not to be sniffed at - but it does show how much of a wasted opportunity the BD is. Arrow were the first out the door with an HD release of INFERNO and they basically threw away the chance to make theirs the definitive version.

In my opinion the pertinent information here is not so much what the DVD looks like as the fact that multiple independent sources have now confirmed that additional grain-scrubbing was applied to the Arrow release, with an official statement from Camera Obscura that their release will NOT be like that. That alone gets my hopes up for it (and the AWE and BU releases as well - we're not exactly starved for choice, are we!), because it's the closest we currently have to confirmation that the Arrow release is NOT the best we can hope for.


Bobafett:

Many thanks for the quote from the Camera Obscura forum. As I said above, it certainly raises my hopes for that release. The fact that Albani is on board is the icing on the cake for me.


Foxy:

Agreed. This is definitely NOT a case of "no better than standard def".

(Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 1:28 PM)

17. Nilo said:

Loving the personal attacks against you and this site on the 'friendliest cult forum on the web', you should go on there and tell them what yuo think.

(Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 11:29 PM)

18. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Nilo:

You mean the Cult Labs forum? Sorry, but I think that's just about the worst thing you could suggest. They have their opinions and I have mine - I've no interest in turning this into some sort of online slanging match, particularly not on a forum operated by the company responsible for the disc.

In any event, from the (admittedly brief) look I took at the forum earlier tonight, it's really only a couple of individuals making anything approaching personal attacks, and by the looks of it one of them only posted a link to my review in the first place so he could stir up some trouble (if he is as concerned about reviews damaging the label as he makes out, surely the sensible thing would have been not to give my review any additional publicity?). The rest of the posters there seem to be able to get their points across in a far more civilised manner.

(Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2010 at 11:38 PM)

19. David S.H. said:

The Cult Labs Forum is OK, I had a look there at the thread myself and it just seems like a couple of members who shouldn't represent the forum at large.
I actually posted in a thread titled "Arrow Video - Dawn Of The Dead Blu-ray" when I noticed 12 frames of print damage in their Dawn of the Dead release. Apparently they are there in the US Blu release too. It just seemed a strange thing to have missed, 12 frames so about 1/2 a second.
It was page 40, post 398 of that thread if you're curiosity is peaked ;)

(Posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 at 4:21 AM)

20. Dirk Diggler said:

Arrow have yet to impress me with any of their releases and the fact that they have Battle Royale, scares the shit out of me.

(Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM)

21. Stephen Wilson said:

Hey folks.As a member of the cult labs forum myself, I thought I would speak up for the place. As Michael said, it is only a few people who made it personal. Michael is entitled to his opinion regarding the disc, as is everyone else.And as for biased on the site,people are entitled to dislike what Arrow do and the friendliest forum on the net thing, that's because they like to try and keep it as friendly as possible,as I said, you can say you don't like the stuff they are putting out, just no need to make it personal and attack them (or other members for that matter).

(Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 at 6:04 AM)

22. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Anonymous:

(the one objecting to one of the earlier comments)

I've deleted both your comment and the comment you were objecting to. I assure you there is no "smear campaign" and I have no idea what you mean by "the way I am conducting myself". I've expressed my opinions on the disc and people can either agree or disagree with them.

As for "crossing swords with you" in the past, I must admit I don't recall the previous duel, though maybe if you told me your name it would be a little easier to remember. I'm assuming you're not the one who sent me a death threat because I pointed out that the Severin version of ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER was missing ten minutes of footage. Your spelling and grammar are slightly better than his were, at any rate.

(Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 at 8:07 AM)

23. Greg M said:

Michael (or anyone else who can answer) do Camera Obscura have any sort of official website or store? I'd like to check out some of their current releases and see if they've posted any info about their upcoming Inferno disc.

(Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 at 9:40 PM)

24. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Greg:

I'm not aware of a web site, no, though I could be mistaken. I ordered Camera Obscura's DVD of the giallo SO SWEET, SO DEAD from Diabolik, and while they were a bit expensive, at least when importing to the UK, the service was very good and I expect they'll end up stocking the INFERNO BD when it comes out.

As for info about the disc, these are the details according to Twitchfilm:

- New HD digital transfer of the uncut version was supervised and colour-corrected by the cinematographer Romano Albani
- English, Italian and German audio
- New, 2010 produced and over 90 minutes long documenatry about INFERNO with Dario Argento, cinematographer Romano Albani, actress Daria Nicolodi, the makeup as well as the special effects department, Luigi Cozzi, Claudia Simonetti as well as the animal trainer of the film.
- Irene Miracle hosted by Tim Lucas
- Question & Answear with music composer Keith Emerson
- New, 2010 produced location tour
- German, English as well as Italian trailer
- New audiocommentary by film-historicans Dr. Marcus Stigelegger ans Christian Kessler
- Booklet
- Movie as well as ALL supplementary materials have English & German subtitles

(Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 at 10:54 PM)

25. Kentai said:

How did I not ask this sooner:

Are all the features on the BD50 either 1080i60/1080p24? In other words would a Yank such as myself have any trouble viewing the HD content? I've seen the "old" features before, so those being PAL wouldn't bother me much.

(Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 3:13 AM)

26. Crystal Plumage said:

Greg M:

Camera Obscura has a forum in which they regularly post. It's in German, but an online translater could do the trick:

http://forum.cinefacts.de/camera-obscura-filmdistribution/

One post in particular is of interest here:

"Ja, die Arrow Disc ist streckenweise ziemlich totgefiltert, und farblich zum größten Teil auch sehr flach (mehr noch als die diesbezüglich oft kritisierte italienische DVD). Das wird bei uns nicht der Fall sein. Wir haben ein Herz für Grain."

(Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 12:04 PM)

27. FoxyMulder said:

Well Greg Google translator was of use.

Yes, the Arrow disc is in parts quite totgefiltert, and color for the most part, very flat (even more respect than the often criticized Italian DVD). This will not be with us the case. We have a heart for Grain. "

I think totgefiltert means filtered although Google didn't translate that well.

(Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM)

28. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Kentai:

You should be OK for everything except the Q&A with Irene Miracle, Keith Emerson and Tim Lucas, which is 1080i50. As far as I can tell, everything else is 1080p24.

(Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2010 at 7:19 PM)

29. jonnyforeigner said:

Why has my comment regarding the Arrow forum been removed ?

(Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 at 11:29 PM)

30. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Jonny:

I removed your previous comment because someone left a comment accusing me of propagating false claims, in this case your accusation that Arrow had released cut versions of films. I've no idea whether there's any validity to your accusation or not (I'm not going to trawl through every single title they've ever released and check to see whether it's intact), but to be honest I didn't consider it worth the extended hassle so I deleted it and the complainant's post rather than allow this to turn into some sort of all-out war. I don't like removing comments - it's something I always said I wouldn't do - but in this case it just wasn't worth the extended headache for me.

To be honest I'd prefer if we could keep discussions in this thread restricted to the INFERNO BD releases rather than Arrow or their forum. It does no-one any favours and simply creates animosity where there's no need for any to exist. I have no desire for this blog to turn into a platform for people to attack other sites (or individuals).

(Posted on Friday, September 24, 2010 at 11:45 PM)

31. Greg M said:

Thank you, Michael, Crystal Plumage and FoxyMulder for your informative replies!!

(Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 at 10:29 AM)

32. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

If the German BD of "Inferno" ends up looking really good, I hope it'll play on a Region A player. It sounds promising. Supervised and color-corrected by the DP, Camera Obscura's proclamation of loving grain... That gets my hopes up.

(Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 at 3:48 AM)

33. Mr. White said:

The first comparison screenshots between the Arrow and the Camera Obscura have been published. The CO has more grain and isn't zoomed, and I'm glad that I've decided to wait for their Blu-Ray.

link: http://dirtypictures.phpbb8.de/post30393.html#p30393

(Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 at 1:10 PM)

34. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Mr. White:

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately none of these images are full 1080p, but they do indeed look very promising. Any idea if the Camera Obscura release has a release date, yet?

(Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM)

35. Mr. White said:

Camera Obscura have said that they are aiming for a release in early December.

Christopher D. Jacobson:
Unfortunately, they are not allowed to make the disc code-free...

(Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 at 3:40 PM)

 
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