Thursday, December 2, 2010

HDTV fun and games

5:13 PM / Television / Comments9 Comments

Television

For the last several years, most of my TV recordings have come courtesy of the Freecom DVB-T USB stick I picked up for somewhere in the region of £15. Back then, the only television being broadcast via antenna in the UK was of the standard definition variety, but with BBC, ITV and Channel 4 all launching their own high definition terrestrial solutions in the last year, I decided I wanted to get in on the act instead of having to rely on other sources to acquire HD recordings of the relevant shows.

The only problem? Until recently, it was impossible to get hold of a computer-based device capable of receiving DVB-T2, the transmission system used for HD terrestrial broadcasts in this country.

MyGica FreeView T200

Enter the solution: MyGica's FreeView T200, the first DVB-T2 USB device available in the UK. The fine people at TVStick.co.uk got their initial shipment on Monday, dispatched one for me within about half an hour of my ordering it, and it showed up on Wednesday afternoon. That's what I call great service!

Initial impressions are pretty positive, taking into account the newness of the device and the various technical kinks that will presumably be worked out with subsequent driver iterations. Unlike my Freecom DVB-T, which was basically a USB pen drive with an aerial connection on the back, MyGica's solution is a small hub with its own external power supply, although it still connects to the system via USB. The bundled HiDTV software can only be described as unstable, at least on my system - it crashed continually while searching for channels and took somewhere in the region of five attempts to complete a full scan. After that, it remained unstable and I was unable to get any sound (although the video looked fine).

Fortunately, I've used Windows Media Center for TV viewing and recording ever since I upgraded to Windows Vista and later Windows 7, both of which come with Media Center included, and I've always found it to be vastly superior to any of the various freeware TV options, as well as ArcSoft's TotalMedia (which came bundled with my Freecom stick). Therefore, I promptly ditched HiDTV and switched to Media Center, which detected and played all the relevant channels with no problems.

HDTV in Windows Media Center

The image quality seems good - certainly as good or better than the various alternatives I've been relying on for HD shows I watch. The recordings are all in Microsoft's proprietary .wtv format, which only plays in Media Center or Windows Media Player. I personally don't have a huge problem with this as both are perfectly adequate programs, but if anyone knows of a way of converting these files into something more compatible (without re-encoding, naturally), I'd be interested to hear.

A slight problem, though: for some reason no programme guide data is available for any of the four HD channels (BBC One HD, BBC HD, STV HD and Channel 4 HD) in Media Center. Apparently this is a problem between Microsoft and Freeview HD and one that affects at least one other HDTV receiver (the Black Gold BGT3620). For three of the four channels, the most straightforward solution is to sync each channel with the TV guide data from its standard definition counterpart. Obviously this doesn't work for BBC HD, which has no SD equivalent. File it under "problems I can live with but hope they fix before too long."

The only other problem I've encountered in Media Center is that sometimes on startup, or upon changing channels, it will randomly lose the ability to received HD content, giving me a message stating that the signal strength may be weak or the aerial may be disconnected. In these instances, opening up the HiDTV software for a few seconds (which is sometimes as long as it runs for before crashing!) is enough to solve the problem, and I'm sure it's an issue that will be cleared up eventually, but it's frustrating nonetheless.

Still, all in all I consider this £69.99 well spent. There are clearly some compatibility issues to be worked out, but until then I'm more than content to work around them in exchange for (relatively) hassle-free viewing and recording of HD content.

 
9 Comments

1. ChuckZ said:

Found this with a quick Google search:

"Go into "Computer \ C: \ Users \ Public \ Recorded TV" then right-click on the file and there will be a convert to .dvr-ms option built-in to Windows 7!

Then demux that."

(http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1134440)

Apparently you can demux .dvr-ms, but I don't know what tools are necessary.

(Posted on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 1:23 PM)

2. ChuckZ said:

A little more research:

Use DVRMSToolbox:

http://babgvant.com/files/

Here's the guide (which I will not read because it's too long):

http://bluwiki.com/go/DVRMSToolbox_User_Guide

You can do single file and directory processing it seems.

(Posted on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 1:33 PM)

3. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Hmm... the "convert to .dvr-ms" option isn't available for HD content... presumably because in the UK the HD channels are AVC while the standard definition content is MPEG-2?

(Posted on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM)

4. ChuckZ said:

Ugh... I thought that may be an issue. I wasn't sure what coding scheme you guys are using over there now. Is anything still MPEG-2? We'll be stuck in MPEG-2 land for decades.

(Posted on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 11:30 PM)

5. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Not sure it's across the board, but all four HD channels available over Freeview (i.e. over antenna) are definitely AVC. Sky Movies, the major movie subscription service, is also AVC. There may be other HD channels that are MPEG-2, but this is all fairly new territory for me.

(Posted on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 11:36 PM)

6. David S.H. said:

Well Chuckz DVRMSToolbox didn't work for Michael, but using it and Handbrake I managed to convert over 10GBs of dvr-ms files to about 2GB of MP4s. So, thanks lol

(Posted on Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 3:37 AM)

7. Mangoat said:

Give Videoredo V4 a whirl for the content. Ive awaiting my Blackgold card being shipped so can't say 100% that it works, but is certainly supports h.264 content and supports .dvr-ms files, so it may well open a .wtv file.

I'll be interested to see if it works too, as I''ll be using 7MC (most likely, depending on the Blackgold software) to watch/record and hopefully VRD to edit.

(Posted on Monday, December 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM)

8. Mangoat said:

Just thought I'd reply to say that VideoRedo does list .wtv in it's open file options.

You can get a trial version to see if it works for you:

http://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm

(Posted on Monday, December 6, 2010 at 11:05 PM)

9. A said:

There is the PCTV nanoStick T2, which came out on the 25th November apparently(it also calls itself the world's first) and is more like how you mention your DVB-T stick being.
The bundled software it comes with works fine for me, completed its scan the first time and records to the .ts format. Haven't tried it on Media Center due to not having Windows 7, but it does work with other programmes I've tried like TSReader.
Due to the EPG being broadcast mostly encrypted as you know, the EPG in the bundled software only shows programs with unencrypted names(so only shows about 5 programmes on each HD channel for the next 7 days).
One unfortunate issue is that it sorts the channels in the order it finds them, and I can't find any way to edit the numbers it assigns them. It would be odd if the functionality isn't available somewhere, so I'm guessing I just haven't found it yet.
A nifty feature is that the light on it only turns on when it's tuned, so you can tell at a glance if it's recording. My DVB-T tuner's light just stays on all the time it's plugged in.

Got it for £70.93 from an online shop, although their site now shows it's out of stock so if interested you may have to find somewhere else.

And yes, VideoReDo does open .wtv files.

(Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM)

 
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