Friday, January 7, 2011

A few thoughts on Arrow Video's new Deep Red BD

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It's a little-known fact that this is not actually the first ever high definition release of Dario Argento's masterpiece DEEP RED (a.k.a. PROFONDO ROSSO). While Arrow Video can justifiably lay claim to having produced the world's first Blu-ray Disc release, back in 2005 Italian label Medusa released a special 2-disc edition of the film, the first disc a standard DVD and the second a DVD-ROM containing a 1440x816* high definition version of the film encoded as a Windows Media Video 9 file and playable only on Windows PCs. I suspect most would consider this format overly limiting and the cramming of an HD encode of a movie with a running time of over two hours on to a single DVD-9 to be a less than ideal situation, but the end result wasn't actually all that bad. The compression was heavy, to be sure, but it looked like a nice enough master was lurking underneath all that blocking. It certainly compared very favourably with the various DVD releases and gave me a lot of hope for an eventual BD release.

* The unusual vertical height is derived from the film's 2.35:1 aspect ratio and the fact that the black bars were not encoded as part of the video file itself.

The packaging

Arrow's DEEP RED comes in the now-standard packaging for their special edition BD releases: inside a windowed slip cover with reversible cover art for four possible configurations. In addition to newly commissioned artwork by Rick Melton (the "default" configuration), we get the Italian, US and French theatrical posters. I must confess that DEEP RED is one of those films where I've never really been all that keen on ANY of the official art designs - the US version is kinda cheesy and the Italian version doesn't really work as a DVD/BD cover - so this is one instance where I'm actually OK with the new artwork (the upcoming PHENOMENA cover also looks pretty neat - though I'm a whole lot less taken by the art for THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE and THE CAT O' NINE TAILS). I certainly like it a whole lot more than the overly tacky art used for Arrow's INFERNO release.

We also get a double-sided poster (with the Melton artwork on one side and the US poster on the other) and an 8-page booklet with a new essay by Alan Jones.

The extras

As with INFERNO, this is a 2-disc release, with the first disc containing the full-length 127-minute version of the film and the bulk of the extras, while the second disc features the truncated 105-minute US theatrical cut English-language export version (cheers, Vincent!) and a solitary extra which I'll get on to discussing in a moment.

Disc 1's extras open with a rather grotty-looking Italian theatrical trailer and a high definition version of the US theatrical trailer, which I'd hazard a guess was actually reconstructed from the scan of the film itself, given its very similar look (in spite of the aspect ratio difference) and the fact that it drops down to standard definition when the title and US distribution credits appear.

The main extras, however, consist of separate interviews with three of the film's main players - co-star Daria Nicolodi (speaking a mixture of Italian and English), composer Claudio Simonetti (speaking English) and writer/director Dario Argento (speaking Italian). Barring the elaborate (and in my opinion over-long - sorry!) cut-out animation opening and closing credits, the presentation is fairly straightforward, with each participant addressing the camera and interspersed with clips from the film, the choice of which is often quite amusing and inventive. As is so often the case, the juiciest comments come from the delightfully unrestrained Daria Nicolodi, who spares no expense in letting us know precisely how she feels about her former partner, Argento (she clearly has a great affection for the film, however). Argento himself starts off rather subdued but becomes a lot more lucid as the interview progresses and recounts a very amusing story about discovering a heavily edited French VHS release of the film and calling up the distributor in a rage. Simonetti's comments about starting out as a musician and the doors scoring DEEP RED opened for him and Goblin are also interesting (and probably also the most coherent of the bunch!), but I did get the feeling I'd heard a lot of what he had to say before. I was also a little disappointed by the lack of clips from the 2007 DEEP RED musical he mentions. (It's also worth pointing out that a number of the pieces of music highlighted in this featurette were actually written by the film's original composer, Giorgio Gaslini, rather than Goblin.)

There is also a very brief introduction by Simonetti which plays at the start of the film.

The final, slightly surprising, inclusion on Disc 1 is the commentary by Danish filmmaker and Argento expert Thomas Rostock previously found on the AWE DVD release of the film from a couple of years back. As I understand it, this was a fairly late addition to the line-up, but it's a welcome one as it's a good, informative track even if it does at times lean a little towards describing what's happening on screen. Carefully researched and rehearsed, it's an entirely different approach to the more informal one adopted by Alan Jones and Kim Newman in their Argento commentary collaborations, but no less valid. Rostock's commentary also compliments the other extras on the disc nicely given that he delves into areas overlooked in the three interviews, such as Giorgio Gaslini's involvement with the score and the role of co-writer Bernardino Zapponi.

Finally, Disc 2 features an interview with long-term Argento collaborator Luigi Cozzi, owner of the Profondo Rosso store in Rome. The bulk of the feature consists of a personal tour of the various exhibits in the store's basement by Cozzi, largely comprised of props from films Argento either directed or produced in the 80s.

The sound

DEEP RED has a bit of a problematic history regarding its audio, owing to the fact that, despite being shot in English (post-dubbed for the most part), no English audio exists for significant portions of the film given the decision to cut the English-language export version down to 105 minutes. The Arrow BD takes its cues from the Anchor Bay DVD, offering the option to view the film in Italian or in English with the film dropping back to Italian where no English audio exists. The latter approach takes a bit of getting used to and I know some who refuse to watch the film that way because they can't stand the constant back and forth between two different languages. Arrow clearly regard the all-Italian version as the optimal viewing experience for the full-length 127-minute cut, with the default mix being a lossless Italian DTS-HD Master Audio track, remixed into 5.1. Lossy Italian and English (with partial Italian) 2.0 tracks are also to be found, although there is no lossless English option - not even on the second disc, which presents the 105-minute export version in lossy English only.

Goblin's score sounds particularly imposing on the lossless 5.1 track - enough to persuade even a purist like me to view the film that way. Some of the added multi-channel effects (for example the chatter in the restaurant emanating from the rears at the start of chapter 4) sounds a bit out of place and there is a mildly annoying echo to the dialogue not present in either of the 2.0 tracks, but as remixes go this one is pretty decent.

As with the Anchor Bay DVD, English subtitles come in two flavours for the 127-minute cut: covering the entire film or just the scenes not available in English. The 105-minute cut also includes subtitles.

The video

I was rather critical of Arrow's previous Argento BD release, INFERNO, on account of the overzealous application of grain reduction, which eroded the film's texture and left it looking mushy and video-like. Such criticisms certainly can't be levelled against their release of DEEP RED, which is decidedly grainy... too grainy, I'm sure some will argue. It's clearly the same master used for the Italian WMV-HD release from a few years back, retaining that release's dense grain and noticeable yellow tint. The HD master was created in 2004, and is never going to compete with a modern scan à la THE SOUND OF MUSIC (OK, I'm dreaming, I know). As with a number of other Italian films released on BD, such as DJANGO, SALÒ and CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD, the grain has an overbearing, noise-like quality to it. The more of these I see, the more inclined I am to suspect that a whole bunch of these films were transferred in high definition at around the same time using the same or similar equipment, and the more convinced I become that this is not how these films should look. (Compare them with TENEBRAE, a modern scan with a very different appearance.)

Now oddly enough, my memory of the WMV-HD version was a lot more favourable despite being derived from the same master and despite having a lower horizontal resolution. After wrangling for some time with Windows' media usage rights (DRM, yay!), I finally managed to get the disc to play, and it turned out that my recollections were mostly accurate. While the compression frequently turns the whole thing into soup, on the occasions when the grain IS allowed to shine through, it looks a whole lot more natural and less "electronic" than what I'm seeing on the Arrow BD. I'm at a loss to explain why this might be, to be honest. It's unquestionably the same scan, so what's going on? Is there a problem with Arrow's treatment of the materials or is it simply that the lower resolution of the WMV-HD disc helped "smooth over" problems inherent in the master? I suspect we'll have a better idea once Blue Underground's BD, which is due out in March and will almost certainly use the same master, materialises. I'd be willing to concede that the problems on the Arrow BD might be down to poor compression (their version of CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD certainly didn't compare very favourably with Blue Underground's version, derived from the same master, in that department) and/or some sort of dodgy scaling (I've a feeling the original master was probably 1440x1080 and therefore would have had to be rescaled to 1920x1080). Until we know for sure, though, I don't intend to start pointing fingers.

Compare the grain in the shots below (left: Medusa's WMV-HD rescaled to 1920x1080; right: Arrow's BD at its native 1920x1080) and let me know what you think:

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How does it look in motion, then? A whole lot better than any DVD edition and, in my opinion, preferable to Arrow's smoothed over INFERNO BD, although your mileage may vary depending on your tolerance for all things grainy. I'm torn as to whether it looks better or worse than the WMV-HD version, to tell the truth. It varies from frame to frame and shot to shot, and while there are a lot of very nice-looking moments on the WMV-HD disc, there are also a lot that are so mired in compression artefacts that the picture more or less disintegrates completely. I certainly won't be going back to my Anchor Bay DVD any time soon, that's for sure, but I do suspect things could look a whole lot better than they do here.

I should point out that the 127-minute and 105-minute cuts both look comparable, with the 105-minute cut clearly having been recompiled by removing the appropriate scenes rather than having been sourced from an actual print of the shorter version. However, the presentation of this version is marred by having had its English-language opening and closing credits inserted from a standard definition source. I can't help wondering whether it would have been better to have just left them in Italian.

Oh, and it's also worth noting that there is a fairly noticeable glitch at the 00:45:27 mark, during which the image briefly disintegrates into severe blocking. I've checked this with multiple BD players and playback software and, in case anyone's wondering, it's present to the same degree on all of them, pretty much ruling out any likelihood of this being a player issue. It's minor, but it does take you out of the film momentarily. The same moment is also affected in the 105-minute cut. The problem does NOT appear in the WMV-HD version.

Overall

All told, I'm of two minds about this release. The extras are plentiful, the sound is good (despite the lack of a lossless English option), and I'm sure many will welcome the ability to watch both cuts of the film in high definition (though for me the full-length 127-minute cut is the only one that matters). The image quality is rather iffy, but it's unclear how much better it could reasonably have been expected to look.

I know quite a few people intending to pick up the upcoming Blue Underground release have been waiting to find out whether the extras alone justify the purchase of the Arrow version. That's a question I can't really answer: this is one of my favourite films and I was always planning on picking up both editions anyway. For those only intending to buy one or the other, we'll have to wait for the BU release to see how it compares to Arrow's version on the audio-visual front. Different people will have different views on this matter, but this is mine: extras, no matter how informative and numerous they are, are just that - extras. For me, it's all about the presentation of the film itself, and personally, given the choice between a feature-packed disc with a decent transfer and a bare-bones one with a superb transfer, I'd pick the later without a moment's hesitation.

Of course, this is all rather academic at the moment, given that BU's release is a good three months off. So, should you buy the Arrow version now or wait and see what the competition looks like? That's not a question I'd feel particularly comfortable answering. The only advice I can give is to read my review (as well as the various others floating about the 'net) and decide how you want to play it.

PS. In the interests of balance, here's a more positive review than mine, as well as a more critical one.

 
35 Comments

1. Count Fosco said:

A balanced and thorough write up Michael as I always expect from you. Thanks for the great service you do for us film obsessives on the image & sound front.

Having read your thoughts on this release I think I'll wait until March before finally deciding on which version I'll purchase.

Although considering this is my favourite Argento and one of my favourite films of all time I'll probably still end up owning both at some point, lol!

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 4:27 PM)

2. David Mackenzie said:

It's sad that they are putting out BD titles compressed like that.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 4:40 PM)

3. Vincent Pereira said:

One small correction: The 105-minute version isn't the "U.S. Theatrical cut", it's the English-language export version that went out to all foreign countries. The U.S. theatrical cut is in fact further cut down from the 105-minute version and runs 98-minutes.

Vincent

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 5:13 PM)

4. Vincent Pereira said:

Nice review, I'll wait and see what Blue Underground comes up with. I'm not sure that the BU will be the same scan- I was told that BU actualy did their own scan of INFERNO, for example. I'm not sure if that's 100% true but I'm definitely curious.

Michael, I forgot to ask you re: the French TENEBRE Blu-ray- are the opening credits and the book inserts in English or Italian? I ask because the editing is different for the Italian book inserts and doesn't quite match the English-language voice-over of the scene.

Vincent

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 5:17 PM)

5. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Vincent:

You're right, of course. I'd somehow merged the 98-minute and 105-minute versions together in my mind. Actually, it occurs to me that I have no idea what the differences are between the two shortened cuts.

BU did their own scan of INFERNO? If that's true, then colour me excited.

As for TENEBRAE, the inserts, opening and closing credits are in Italian.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM)

6. BluBrew said:

As always it's great to read your articles Michael, and nice to have a more balanced view. I also felt this release had great similarities to the transfers on Django and COTLD - almost looking like they have been completely degrained and subsequently hit with some messy sharpening and digital noise.

The French release of Zombie I recently did a write-up about, suffers from pretty much the exact same problems. If these releases did come from one source it would have to be the 'Opening EuroMediane Group'. They take credit for 'remastering' Zombie from the original elements.

Also noticed the glitch on my disc - Carlo goes completely pixelated for a few frames. Strangely enough the glitch only occured while playing from my stand-alone player, from my PC-reader things looked normal.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM)

7. Author Profile Page Michael said:

BluBrew:

Thanks! Big fan of your site too - I really appreciate your in-depth, informed coverage.

(OK, so now that we've got the mutual back-patting out of the way...)

Interesting - I'm going to have to look into this "Opening EuroMediane Group" (never heard of 'em before). It does make me wonder about Blue Underground's THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE, which does look extremely nice on the whole but has a much lighter sheen of that same sort of extremely dense grain/noise (generally only visible on very bright areas) that's visible on DEEP RED, CITY, ZOMBIE etc.

Actually, d'you know what these transfers also remind me of slightly? Spartacus.

Does the glitch with Carlo definitely not occur at all on your PC? I checked it in TotalMedia Theatre 3, PowerDVD 8 and 9, VLC Media Player and Media Player Classic Home Cinema and they all showed the exact same problem on the same frames.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 6:24 PM)

8. EvilFactor said:

The grain certainly does look somewhat unnatural - whether this occurred in telecine or compression or perhaps as a result of some filtering, I dunno. Deep Red is likely to always look at least reasonably grainy, though, due to being shot in 2-perf Techniscope and the reduced film resolution that goes with the territory.

It'll be very interesting to see what Blue Underground does with this one! I just hope it doesn't turn out the way some of their transfers have been for giallos in the past - high quality transfers from great elements, but seemingly not color-corrected to a reference print and instead having a bright, somewhat filtered, 'Blue Underground' look to them. I could be talking out my ass here, but it really does seem to be that way (in fairness their Argento releases have been more accurate, however.)

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM)

9. Kentai said:

So that blotchy noise really was grain before it got clumped into oblivion? I'll be damned. I knew Arrow's BD encoding was no great shakes to start with, but getting beaten by a DVD9 sized WMV encode - even just every now and again - is pretty embarrassing... the only major improvement I expect from Blue Underground is properly maintained grain structure, but I think the general lack of fine detail (DVNR + digital grain? Or maybe just a poorly "focused" scan of the film elements?) and sickly yellow tones make me want to hang onto my Anchor Bay DVD. It can't compete in resolution, clearly, but I only caved and bought the AB DVD of Suspiria after seeing how hopeless the various BD transfers were...

You're right about COTLD, Deep Red and Django all having the same "look", while Tenebrae makes me somewhat hopeful that (someday) we'll get better HD masters made for the lot of them...

That said, you're being just a bit unfair: Salo is so shockingly bad on Blu-ray that puts even that awful looking Living Dead at Manchester Morgue transfer to shame! :)

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 7:41 PM)

10. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Kentai:

To be fair, the good frames on the WMV encode tend to appear in isolation - most of the captures above were picked primarily in an attempt to show what might be lurking beneath all the artefacting on the Arrow release. Capture 3 gives a pretty good indication of what tends to happen on the WMV disc when the compression overwhelms it: it becomes soft and mushy, a bit like watching the film through water.

A properly maintained grain structure probably wouldn't transform this master into a thing of beauty, but I do suspect it would improve things noticeably. That, and a bit of colour correction. Damn, I'm really curious to see what Blue Underground are cooking up.

And yeah, including SALÒ with DJANGO and COTLD was probably a bit unfair. :D It's been a while since I saw that one, but if memory serves me correctly it looks a hell of a lot like what these titles might look like if someone tried to clumsily remove all that noisy grain.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:31 PM)

11. FoxyMulder said:

It looks to me like some DNR was applied by Arrow, it looks like the film grain in for example the last comparison shot is all there with the WMV edition while the BD looks a little scrubbed with partial removal of the grain, how it plays is another matter altogether but Arrow have so far not impressed me at all with their encodes.

This shot below is what i am talking about, it looks like the film grain is partially erased, but how it plays in motion is another thing altogether.

http://www.landofwhimsy.com/funbag/deepredbdcomp5.jpg

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:48 PM)

12. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Foxymulder:

Hmm... could be. I was more inclined to blame the encoding but it's hard to say one way or the other. If DNR was applied, it certainly wasn't at all successful.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:52 PM)

13. FoxyMulder said:

Oh i should add that i also have a suspicion that Arrow may use mild sharpening for their releases, maybe not enough to cause halo issues but enough to make the film grain look a little video like and too sharp.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:52 PM)

14. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Just took a look at two of the best-looking giallo BD releases: Blue Underground's THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE and THE NEW YORK RIPPER. Both look really nice: noticeable grain in both and it's slightly reminiscent of that of DEEP RED, DJANGO etc. but far less intrusive and far less - for lack of a better word - noise-like. As far as I'm concerned these two releases have set the benchmark to which all other "Euro cult" releases should aspire. I'd be a happy chappy indeed if DEEP RED could be made to look like either of these.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:16 PM)

15. Daniel Sardella said:

What, Arrow decided not to have Jennifer Connelly in tattered clothing in a sultry pose for Phenomena?

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:28 PM)

16. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Daniel:

She's, what, 15 in the film? I reckon that wouldn't have gone down so well... :D

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:31 PM)

17. FoxyMulder said:

From IMDB.

Jennifer Connelly said in an interview that she was bitten by the chimp in this film. Apperently during one scene the chimp kept turning around and Dario Argento, not wanting to film her behind, asked Connelly to place her hand on the animal to stop her from turning. But when she attempted to do so, the chimp became enraged and bit her; and then became very hostile toward Connelly for the rest of the film.

When you think what happened a few years ago with that poor woman who had her face torn off as well as other body parts then you realise working with some of these animals does pose dangers.

Argento says Phenomena is his favourite film that he has worked on, it's one of my favourites too although Suspiria is my all time Argento fav.

(Posted on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 11:48 PM)

18. Greg M said:

Poor Arrow (more accurately, poor Arrow customers). They just can't seem to get it right.

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 12:19 AM)

19. Daniel Sardella said:

@MicMacs - I know, I was kidding. I just figured Arrow wanted to keep their tradition of lurid covers. Deep Red is pretty decent. Phenomena is probably the best yet. I enjoyed the Dawn OTD one as well (no 1/2 naked chicks on that one though, unfortunately).

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 1:30 AM)

20. Kentai said:

Even a full-bore color correction wouldn't "fix" this mess, no. I've thought since you posted captures of the WMV-HD version that there's a level of minor details missing compared to the Anchor Bay DVD: subtle facial imperfections, veins on hands, things of that nature are much easier to see on the DVD despite the HD master's thick coating of grain. Perhaps there's some reason not relating to DVNR (say, surpassing the color gamut that contains said details?), but it's yet another strike against the master itself, rather than the WMV-HD encode.

There's also, of course, the matter of the ugly piss-yellow skin tones. Maybe the negative has faded and that's all that could be done, but it sure ain't pretty, and considering this is a substantially newer film that Bird with Crystal Plumage... of course film stock quality and the preservation itself has more to do with fading than age, so that might not mean a thing. (For that matter, was Argento or Kuveiller involved in this remaster? Arrow doesn't mention it, so I can't imagine either of them were within earshot...)

If BU's transfer is the same iffy master with superior compression, well, so be it. Odds are we're not going to see anything better for years to come, and if that's the best of the worst, I'll begrudgingly take it. If they do make their own scan from the negative themselves, then huzzah's all 'round... but I'll only believe it when I see it.

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 2:08 AM)

21. BLuBrew said:

Strangely enough I was able to see the glitch on my PC today. Things were running a bit slow yesterday, so I'm guessing the video skipped over it. Also took a shot of it, certainly not a pretty sight:

http://blubrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/glitch.jpg

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 12:15 PM)

22. Author Profile Page Michael said:

FoxyMulder:

I really like PHENOMENA too. It's one of those "kitchen sink" movies and doesn't have the elegance of THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE or DEEP RED, but the climax makes it all worthwhile.


Daniel:

Yeah, I know you were kidding. I was too.


Kentai:

I certainly didn't get the impression that there was more subtle detail in the Anchor Bay DVD - far from it. Can you give me any specific examples and I'll take a look?


BluBrew:

Thanks for checking for me. To be honest, I'd have been very surprised if it was just an issue affecting certain players.

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM)

Started a blog.
It'll probably be similar to Lee's.
I may go into more detail from time to time, like you do.
Link is my Name.

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 8:18 PM)

24. Kentai said:

To use your DVD/WMV-HD comparisons, check example #2 for some of the most obvious instances; the man in the background with glasses has clearly defined veins in his hand on the AB DVD, but most of them disappear on the WMV-HD version (despite there being obvious "grain" where they would be otherwise). The priest in the foreground has much the same issue on his hand, and even the creases on his knuckles appear slightly smoothed over.

As I had mentioned, I think that maybe pushing the yellows too hard has had an adverse effect on blues - it certainly doesn't look like "normal" DVNR or DSR, and the grain in this shot seems reasonably intact, so I can't chalk it up to compression alone. I just know I'm seeing more veins - and similar color gradations in skin - on the Anchor Bay transfer than I am Medusa's, for whatever reason. Facial contours are much easier to spot in example #3, for example... I think the yellow push and lowered contrast together might be the cause, but in that case it's hard to say which is "correct". (Though I tend to think it's the one that isn't a hazy yellow from start to finish!)

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 9:48 PM)

25. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Daniel:

Now following. :)


Kentai:

Hmm... I see what you mean. I think you're probably right about the lower contrast. As for which (if either) is "correct", I know I prefer the overall balance of the AB master.

Here's the comparison Kentai and I are referring to, in case it isn't clear.

(Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2011 at 10:46 PM)

26. Mr. White said:

Off-Topic, but I just wanted to give a quick update on the German Blu-Ray of "Inferno". Here's a quote from a German forum:
"INFERNO will come as soon as possible and with a probability of 99% before the BU. Besides, the BU will have no Italian audio and little extras." (translation)

(Posted on Sunday, January 9, 2011 at 2:47 PM)

27. David S.H. said:

Glitch in the matrix?
http://blubrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/glitch.jpg

lol

(Posted on Sunday, January 9, 2011 at 3:30 PM)

TO: Daniel Sardella

I'm now following your blog fella. What's your Twitter name by the way?

(Posted on Sunday, January 9, 2011 at 6:25 PM)

29. David Mackenzie said:

The glitch looks like videotape dropouts, not an AVC decoding issue. In other words, it's in the source and will happen on all players.

(Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 at 12:21 AM)

30. George said:

Just to clarify, Blue-Underground is releasing Inferno in March and, as this link shows, Deep Red in April.

http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3111:new-deep-red-dvdblu-ray-art-and-details&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167

(Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 12:11 AM)

31. Toecutter said:

BU release: "newly transferred in high definition from the original camera negative"

Sounds good, if true.

(Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 2:18 PM)

32. Kentai said:

I somehow don't that Blue Underground has a sparkling new telecine that Arrow Video doesn't, but I guess we'll see in a few months. If it is, then huzzah's all 'round.

Odd wording on the press release, too. Makes it sound as if the "Complete" version on Blu-ray is only in Italian. That just can't be right, can it...?

(Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 at 4:36 PM)

33. Vincent Pereira said:

Ben Gart e-mailed Blue Underground and they replied that their DEEP RED is a brand-new transfer from the negative, and they had no idea re: what was the source for the Arrow Blu-ray:

http://www.avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?36259-BU-and-Argento-GOES-Blu-Ray-%28MERGED%29&p=863275&viewfull=1#post863275

Vincent

(Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 1:10 AM)

34. EvilFactor said:

Anyone else notice that the Arrow transfer seems to have some odd density fluctuations in the opening murder scene? I have no idea if this is intentional, but I don't recall the light in the original transfer flickering like that.

(Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:06 AM)

35. The Wilson Bros said:

Just had an email from Blue Underground confirming that their Blu release of Profondo Rosso will be region-free... :)

(Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2011 at 4:16 PM)

 
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