Monday, May 16, 2011

Review: Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

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1975. The giallo craze that consumed the early part of the decade has run out of steam, with Italian audiences turning to macho crime thrillers and sex comedies where once they flocked to lurid whodunits with names like A LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN (UNA LUCERTOLA CON LA PELLE DI DONNA, Fulci 1971) and WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO SOLANGE? (COSA AVETE FATTO A SOLANGE?, Dallamano 1972). Dario Argento, after effectively launching the craze with his first film, THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE (L'UCCELLO DALLE PIUME DI CRISTALLO, 1970), has bowed out of the race after completing his "animal trilogy" of gialli to make the ill-fated historical comedy THE FIVE DAYS OF MILAN (LE CINQUE GIORNATE, 1973). For many filmmakers, returning to the genre in which he made his name after so visibly falling short when trying his hand at something new would be something of a climbdown. Not so for Argento: with DEEP RED (PROFONDO ROSSO to use its original Italian title), he delivers the giallo to end all gialli and, at the time, his best film.

The plot is typical giallo fare: English pianist Marc Daly (David Hemmings), living in Italy, witnesses the bloody murder of his neighbour, psychic Helga Ullmann (Macha Méril). Earlier Helga, while giving a demonstration of her abilities at a parapsychology conference, had tuned into the thoughts of a killer in the audience, claiming to be able to identify them. Convinced that Helga was on to something and that something about the crime scene doesn't quite make sense, Marc teams up with a bolshie journalist, Gianna Brezzi (Daria Nicolodi), to track down Helga's killer before he himself meets a sticky end...

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

As you've probably already surmised, it's not really about the plot, although DEEP RED does have an unusually good one by giallo standards. It's largely a re-tread of that of THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE, once again pitting a foreign artist adrift in Italy against a deranged serial killer and presenting him with an inexplicable puzzle relating to his witnessing of the initial murder, the significance of which he can't yet grasp. Marc Daly is cut from very much the same cloth as Sam Dalmas (Tony Musante) in the earlier film, although to his credit he is somewhat more aware of his own foibles and actually seems to emerge from his ordeal having learned something about himself. Rather than simply regurgitating the story wholesale, Argento and co-writer Bernardino Zapponi use the by now familiar giallo template as a loose springboard from which to launch a variety of audacious set-pieces, frequently revolving around (but not limited to) the gruesome extended murder sequences for which Argento had become known. The use of Helga's apparently genuine psychic abilities as a plot device, meanwhile, foreshadows Argento's full-on embracement of the supernatural with his next film, 1977's SUSPIRIA.

If Argento's third giallo, FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET (4 MOSCHE DI VELLUTO GRIGIO, 1971), showed him to be growing increasingly disinterested in narrative and increasingly dedicating himself to the visuals and other technical aspects, DEEP RED is the film with which he finally cuts loose and embraces style for style's sake. That's not to say that the script isn't strong - it is, and I suspect we primarily have Zapponi to thank for that - but Argento allows the plot to meander, frequently forsaking it to indulge in, say, a debate about the different positions men and women occupy in society (culminating in an arm-wrestling contest to see which is the weaker sex) or an extended exploration of a crumbling old mansion. It's as if Marc, the archetypal foreigner abroad, has stumbled into some sort of strange otherworld where the streets are utterly deserted at night, the bar from Hopper's "Nighthawks" painting is mysteriously transposed on to the Piazza Comitato di Liberazione Nazionale as if torn from the canvas, landmarks from Turin and Rome intermingle in a single unidentified city, and it somehow seems utterly logical to launch an investigation based on no more than the ramblings of a murdered psychic. Meanwhile, the Kafkaesque machinations of the police - more concerned with non-functioning drinks machines and organising "sit-ins" than solving the case - suggest that there's not much room in this world for logical deduction.

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

While Argento is unquestionably the real star of the show, cranking up the stylisation to the point of excess and revelling in all sorts of seemingly unmotivated camera angles, movements and cutaways, a lot of the credit for the film's success must go to David Hemmings and Daria Nicolodi, who turn in assured and amusing performances and seem to have genuine chemistry together. Their relationship (the precise details of which are never spelled out - do they or do they not have sex?) has been described as the sweetest Argento has ever portrayed, and must surely be partly attributed to Argento's relationship with Nicolodi at the time (it's quite amusing to watch the treatment of Nicolodi's characters becoming increasingly nastier with each film as their relationship deteriorated). There's a case to be made that Gianna, who beats Marc at arm-wrestling, saves him from a burning building and does the lion's share of the investigative legwork, is the film's true hero, and her presence marks a significant shift in Argento's attitude to his female characters. Whereas in the animal trilogy the only women Argento graced with more than the most cursory characterisation were his villainesses, the relationship between Marc and Gianna eventually evolves into a partnership of equals, with Gianna prefiguring the tough-yet-vulnerable female protagonists Argento would favour in much of his later work. (It's telling that, since DEEP RED, the bulk of Argento's protagonists have been female.)

While I personally consider SUSPIRIA to be Argento's crowning achievement, I can at the same time completely understand why so many hold this up as his masterpiece. It's unquestionably the greatest giallo ever made, a perfection of the formula by the man who effectively launched the craze. In many ways, it's a shame he couldn't have left it at this, as his more recent forays into giallo territory have tended to be limp and derivative - futile attempts to recapture former glory that fail to do anything to advance the genre. Still, allow DEEP RED to stand alone and its status as the king of gialli - and Argento's status of the king of giallo DIRECTORS - is clear for all to see. It's a stunning piece of work, the best of its kind and one of the best movies ever made, regardless of genre. 10/10

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

Image quality

Blue Underground's BD version of DEEP RED arrives a few months after the UK release by Arrow Video. Reviewing that release back in January, I was disappointed by the image quality, chiefly on the grounds of what looked like poor quality scaling from a sub-1080p source and the stucco, noise-like quality of the grain. I expressed slight surprise at this at the time, given that my impression, from having previously viewed the 2005 WMV-HD DVD release from Italian label Medusa, was that the master, which the two releases shared, was a reasonably good one. Much to my surprise, there were instances in which, despite its woeful bit rate, the grain was actually rendered better on the WMV-HD version than on the Arrow BD. As far as this new edition goes, they do say that third time's a charm...

First things first, let's be abundantly clear about one thing: despite claims to the contrary, the BU release is NOT a brand new scan of the film. It's the exact same master that was created in 2004 (as far as can be ascertained under cinematographer Luigi Kuveiller's supervision) and used for both the 2005 Medusa WMV-HD and the 2011 Arrow BD. So, going ahead, we need to bear in mind that we're talking about a master that's somewhere in the region of seven years old - not something that would normally fill me with confidence. With that being said, I'm more than happy to concede that the results here are good - in places strikingly good. The scaling artefacts that plagued the Arrow release are gone, and more importantly the grain is rendered throughout with far more precision. In terms of detail and quality of encoding, it's every bit the equal of Blue Underground's earlier BD of THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE, with the tight close-ups Argento has such a penchant for showing ample fine detail. Wider shots can tend to look a little soft, but I'm confident that this is simply down to how the film was shot. That said, the source material seems to have been in slightly worse shape to that of BIRD, with noticeable positive (black) and negative (white) print damage throughout (once again casting doubt on the claim on the back cover that the film has been "newly transferred... from its original camera negative) and, during the final ten minutes or so, some intermittent discolouration, with the tint fluctuating between the slightly yellowish look of the bulk of the film and a more sickly green hue. I must confess to not having noticed this when I watched the Arrow version (presumably I was distracted by its other problems), but looking at it again it's definitely there.

I've weighed in in the past on the grain that can be seen in many of the HD transfers of Italian films of this vintage, and its authenticity or lack thereof. Once again, I have to confess to being slightly suspicious that something odd is going on. The grain does at times have a decidedly noise-like quality, particularly noticeable on white or otherwise very bright areas of the screen. On the other hand, the grain in darker areas largely looks very natural, particularly compared to its messy rendering on the Arrow BD. Back when I wrote my review of that release, I attributed most of its problems to compression. Now, however, I feel more inclined to suspect that the blame may lie with a clumsy attempt to degrain the film. It would certainly fit with their modus operandi: INFERNO and PHENOMENA were both heavily degrained, so the idea that they would choose to leave the significantly grainier DEEP RED alone seems a little implausible. Whatever the reason though, it's clear that Blue Underground's handling of the master is vastly superior to Arrow's, giving this new release a clear win. 8/10

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)
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A quick note on the two versions

Like the Arrow release, Blue Underground's version includes two cuts of the film: the full-length 126-minute Italian "director's cut" and a shorter 105-minute English export version. Both are included on the same disc but are separate files rather than being seamlessly branched. Surprisingly, the improved quality of this release allows us to see that the primary source for the HD master appears to have been a print of the export version. When scenes not included in that version arrive, the master switches to another print. There is no obvious difference in quality between the two sources, but shifts from one print to the other that occur mid-scene are noticeable: in a couple of instances, the image softens briefly during the switch, whereas a couple of frames end up being dropped at the beginning of the shot where Marc and Gianna return to Gianna's car after Helga's funeral. This probably also explains why Blue Underground have managed to get their hands on high definition English-language opening and closing credits (Arrow had to make do with standard definition ones). And, in case anyone was wondering, the image of Marc staring into the pool of blood behind the closing credits is not the awkward freeze-frame from the old Anchor Bay DVD (re-released by Blue Underground a few years back).

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

Audio quality

We get a myriad of sound options which vary depending on which cut of the film you're watching. The full-length Italian version offers up Italian DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround EX and Dolby Digital 2.0 mono, as well as a hybrid Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround EX track which plays most of the film in English but reverts to Italian with English subtitles for scenes where no English audio exists. The English export cut, meanwhile, features English DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1, English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround EX and English Dolby Digital 2.0 mono. English subtitles are provided for the Italian cut, and English SDH, Spanish and French subtitles for the English cut.

One disappointment for me is that the hybrid track is only available as a 5.1 remix, meaning that there's no way to watch the full-length version of the film in English mono. That said, it's a fairly subtle remix, with little in the way of noticeable rear channel effects and no out of place sound effects. Too bad it's lossy. Otherwise, it's all good, with the Italian DTS-HD MA track sounding by far the most impressive, particularly in terms of Goblin's driving score. Despite its jarring nature, I prefer to watch the film in its hybrid form so I can at least hear David Hemmings' own speaking voice MOST of the time. If you're less bothered about losing Hemmings' voice, though, or you dislike the film constantly shifting between English and Italian, you can't go wrong with either the 7.1 Italian remix or its mono counterpart. And, if you're one of those viewers who prefers the brisker (but considerably less thematically rich) export cut, the same choices apply, except in English.

By the way, I know that some people criticised the Arrow release on account of its subtitles seeming to run ahead of the video by several frames. While I can't claim that this troubled me unduly, there's no doubt that the subtitles on the Blue Underground disc are noticeably better timed. 8/10

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

Extras

No question about it, this release looks pretty limp in the extras department when placed alongside the Arrow release. That version had a commentary and new interviews with Argento, Nicolodi and Claudio Simonetti. This one has... a couple of grubby-looking trailers, a reheated 11-minute interview with Argento, Zapponi and Goblin from the old Anchor Bay DVD, and a couple of music videos, one of which (and the disc's sole new feature) is a "live studio" performance of the title theme, recorded in 2010. It's a very underwhelming line-up, particularly given the film's importance, and it's hard not to feel disappointed that Blue Underground didn't make the effort to either record some new material of their own or at least licence some of Arrow's more impressive line-up (as they did for their release of Fulci's CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD). 3/10

Deep Red (Blue Underground release)

Overall

Lest anyone be in any doubt, this release of DEEP RED is by far the best the film has ever looked on home video and, despite the paltry extras, is undoubtedly the version to own. While I suspect that the age of the master and the technical limitations that were in place when it was created have resulted in the image quality not reaching the heights that would have been possible with a new scan, it's certainly no slouch, and viewers can now confidently throw away their DVD copies, safe in the knowledge that they have been well and truly superseded. 8/10

 
23 Comments

1. FoxyMulder said:

Would you say that maybe Mario Bava was first with the genre before Argento. ?

By that i mean films like La ragazza che sapeva troppo aka The Girl Who Knew Too Much or Blood And Black Lace which were 1963/1964 respectively.

Of course Bava was influenced by the work of Hitchcock and German cinema, indeed i think Argento was influenced by Hitchcock as was Brian De Palma during his seventies/early eighties output.

Indeed i think the film Peeping Tom influenced some of the films from these directors as that was groundbreaking for its time but unfortunately ended the career of a great filmmaker.

(Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 4:13 PM)

2. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Oh, no doubt about it, Bava is the father of the giallo film - and it's worth stressing that, as there are still a few people who think Argento "invented" the giallo, which is most assuredly not the case. However, THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE is the film that launched the giallo boom of the early to mid 1970s - most of the films of that period are taking their cues from the template Argento created rather than the two Bava films you mention.

(Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 4:19 PM)

3. Kenneth said:

Looks like I will buy this one also!! :) good review Michael!!
Now I will wait for the cat o nine tails, but some screen caps I`ve seen looks a bit dissapointing. And Arrows Tenebrae is also interesting. Hmm.... a bit expensive to be a Dario Argento fan these days haha. But I gotta use my money on something, right ;) I do hope Opera gets a good HD transfer to Bluray soon.

(Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 8:48 PM)

4. MCP said:

Great review, Michael!

The only point I don't agree with you upon is this: "his more recent forays into giallo territory have tended to be limp and derivative - futile attempts to recapture former glory"

Mostly true, but Tenebre cannot be dismissed as its younger brothers: it was a good comeback for Argento, and in many ways I think it's the true "last" giallo; or at least the one that closes the circle with its negative polarity aesthetics (white instead of black, day instead of night, open spaces instead of claustophobic ones).

(Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 9:15 PM)

5. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Kenneth:

Yep, I'm really concerned about CAT myself. Still, we'll see what it looks like in motion... not that I'm expecting it to suddenly transform into something completely different when I hit "play".

And I second the call for an HD OPERA.


MPC:

Oh, I don't include TENEBRAE (or OPERA) as one of his more "limp, derivative" gialli - I'm thinking more of SLEEPLESS, DO YOU LIKE HITCHCOCK? and, to a certain extent TRAUMA, all of which add nothing to the genre.

(Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 at 9:19 PM)

6. Vincent Pereira said:

Michael:

Did you ever watch that "special edition" of TRAUMA that I sent to you?

Vincent

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 5:46 AM)

7. Kenneth said:

I don`t think that Sleepless is a limp film. As a matter of fact one of the greatest of his later movies.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM)

8. Phil Quail said:

How do you always get these discs so quickly? Amazon only shipped my pre-ordered copy today....

Never mind. Thanks for the in-depth review!

(And yes, it's about time we got Opera in HD. With all these recent and upcoming Argento releases it's starting to seem glaringly overlooked. At the very least someone should do it before they start working on any of the later films.)

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 4:41 PM)

9. Brian said:

I like Trauma for the most part. The head in the elevator kills it, though. Too goofy/stupid. I reacted to it the same way as I did w/ Bava Jr.'s Macabre. That had a nice creepy vibe, then the 'head' and the last few seconds and final impression is 'that was stupid.' :(

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 4:59 PM)

10. FoxyMulder said:

Phil,

You might want to try sites like Axelmusic or Movietyme, both of these sometimes are able to get you the film before its official release date, basically they get their stock in just like most shops before the actual release date so they can stock the shelves or have stock on the day.

Movietyme isn't as quick as it used to be though, the last time i bought was Axel music and i got the release before it came out.

I also got Avatar sent out quick by HMV and received it on the actual release date, meaning they posted it to me a few days before it came out.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM)

11. Phil Quail said:

I have used Axelmusic once, but I got taken in by their Sterling prices which turned out to be considerably more expensive than Amazon when converted into Dollars (not sure where they got their exchange rates!!!)

Still, the service was good and they'll be useful for the occasional expensive item where I don't want to get stung for VAT and import duty.

(Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 6:00 PM)

12. Brian said:

Received this from Amazon today. I had pre-ordered.

Just finished watching the Export Cut and I think I prefer this cut. It has been a few years since I last watched the DVD, but the pacing was good here and I've felt in the past that the longer cut was long in the tooth. I'll watch the longer cut sometime in the next few days.

I find that I prefer the English audio / hybrid audio - Hemmings, Nicolodi, and many of the major characters are speaking English (at least they are in the shorter export cut), so the Italian dub seems odd. If the setting of a film is in Italy like it is here, I'd usually want to go with the Italian audio, but this one will be an exception.

As far as the transfer - skin tones aren't offensive to me like I was fearing. I see waxy faces and I always start to think of DNR, but I think it is just that lots of makeup was used. There is so much fine detail found on this disc that I can't imagine DNR having being used.

(Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 1:35 AM)

13. Sh_dow said:

The increased resolution vs. the Anchor Bay DVD is impressive, but someone should have told the colorist that although the genre is called "giallo", this is not to be taken literally.

I'm surprised the wholesale and dramatic distortion of the color balance has gone pretty much unmentioned by reviewers; perhaps because it applies across the film it is assumed to be part of the original photography, as though the film were shot through yellow lens filters.

The color shift has been pointed out on this site from the first appraisal of the Italian WMV, but you don't seem to find it especially deleterious to an appreciation of the film. For me, the loss of the proper range of color is more damaging than the limitations of SD resolution, and so it looks like I'll be stuck with the Anchor Bay release for some time. As with "Suspiria", it doesn't seem likely we'll see the problems in this release addressed for a long time.

(Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 5:51 AM)

14. gasteropod said:

The Arrow Blu-ray changes colour timing when it switches to the extra Italian scenes, it loses the yellow tint, how about this Blue Underground version, does it stay the same colour throughout?

(Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM)

15. Phil Quail said:

Interesting point about the colours. I don't claim to know which version is "correct", but looking at DVD Beaver's comparison I had been thinking that I prefer the warmer tones of the Anchor Bay DVD.

And Brian's point about skin tones - again looking at DVD Beaver, in the closeups of actresses' faces, they look quite natural on the AB DVD but seem to be wearing heavy stage makeup on the Arrow DVD and the Blu-rays. Not DNR perhaps, but maybe they've just over-brightened the new transfers?

(Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 3:11 PM)

16. Craig M said:

Although not my favourite Argento (that remains Opera), I am gald to hear this is a worthy release on Blu-ray. Ordered myself a copy from PlanetAxel.com (formerly Axelmusic), so looking forward to watching it again.

(Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 at 6:33 PM)

17. Author Profile Page Michael said:

Apologies for the lack of replies lately. To respond to some of the comments posted here...


Vincent:

I did indeed watch the "special edition" of TRAUMA, but while I very much appreciated the restoration of the original introduction to David and Aura, I would be lying if I said I felt it turned what remains for me a heavily flawed film into something better. I've tried several times to "get into" TRAUMA in its various iterations (the US cut, the Italian cut, your "special edition"), but I doubt I'll ever rank it as anything above a very middling entry for Argento.


Kenneth:

Every time I revisit SLEEPLESS, I find less about it to like. It contains a killer opening sequence, true, and Max Von Sydow is an inspired bit of casting, but it looks and feels very bland, the first Argento film to really lack the grandeur with which I'd come to associate him. Plenty of people continue to herald it as a "return to form", but even following on from the disappointment of THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, I find it very hard to get excited about what is essentially just a retread of the old giallo conventions with about a tenth of the style.


Phil:

Yep, I get most of my US discs from PlanetAxel, although it's true that you do pay a premium for the early delivery. Recently, I've been finding myself using Amazon.com more and more, generally restricting my Axel purchases to ones that will go over the customs limit... or ones I'm just too damn impatient to wait for, like DEEP RED.


Brian:

I saw the full-length version years before the export cut, so maybe that colours my judgement of the two, but I've never liked the latter. It's certainly more efficiently paced, but I feel that, in deleting so much material, it loses much of what makes DEEP RED a cut above the average giallo. This is particularly true of the scenes between Hemmings and Nicolodi, which are a joy to watch.


Sh_dow:

I must admit I'm actually slightly surprised Blue Underground didn't attempt to bring the colours more in line with those of the old Anchor Bay DVD, as they did with their recent INFERNO BD. That said, I didn't make much of a mention of the colours here as I kinda felt the issue had been discussed to death in my previous write-ups on the two released derived from the same master (the WMV-HD and the Arrow BD). Also, in my opinion, any issues with the colour on this release pale in comparison to the major contrast problems with SUSPIRIA. I certainly wouldn't go back to my AB DVD of DEEP RED, whereas I would with SUSPIRIA.


Gasteropod:

I'm not entirely convinced it loses the yellow tint on either release when it switches to the extended footage. The colour values to shift slightly, but it retains much of the yellowish push.

BU certainly seem to have done a bit of colour work on the master, but I'll want to do a proper in-depth comparison between it and the Arrow release before commenting further. I should hopefully get round to that at the weekend.

(Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 at 1:41 PM)

18. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

I recall liking Trauma primarily for the local Minneapolis locale. An Argento film shot thirty minutes from me? Kinda boggles the mind. Still have to revisit that one; it's been a few years. I just recall that POV shot of the camera going into the front door of a house, and spinning upside-down, and from that point on I knew, "This isn't quite the Argento I love." It was right after I'd first seen Tenebrae, too, with its really long, fantastic tracking shot at the lesbos' place.

(Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM)

19. Argento Fan said:

I'd like to second (or third) the comments about the yellow push in the BU release. And, personally, I think the switch between coloration is indeed noticeable; a good example of this is as the film is switching from English to Italian and back while the detective is interviewing Marc in the immediate aftermath of Helga's murder. The tint on the wall/in the background clearly shifts between yellow and something more blue; also, the difference of the tint as Giana's dialogue switches between languages seemed quite marked to me (again I noticed it most in the background, the wall, also in the hue of the detective's clothes, the one who tries to keep her from coming into the crime scene).

One other issue that I've found quite distracting (and disappointing): In the scene with Marc at the piano in his apartment, I noticed a distracting--I don't know what to call it--almost undulation of brightness in the white areas in the scene--I'm thinking especially when the camera first comes through his window to find him at the piano, the portion of the wall to the right and behind the piano is practically flickering at times (this continues, to a greater and lesser extent, throughout the scene whenever this portion of the room is visible). I can't tell if it's the result of the amount of noise/grain in movement, or color, or what. The cycling discoloration that you mention in the last ten minutes of the film (I could see it most in the flashback of the murder of Carlo's father) reminded me very much of what I saw in the earlier apartment scene, though in the apartment scene it seemed less an issue of color and more an issue of brightness or contrast. Having tried it on two different Blu-ray players I'm pretty confident it's not my machine.

(I thought I noticed it again in Marc's first conversation with Carlo by the fountain, but chalked it up to the reflection/cast of light from the water moving in the fountain. It's also much, much less pronounced in that scene.)

In general, I notice it less on the Arrow Blu-ray (I watched them back to back), but must admit I find it a bit disconcerting. For comparison's sake I watched the BU Inferno Blu and didn't notice anything at all like this (in fact I found the BU Inferno Blu pretty fantastic image-wise). I realize there will always be limitations to take into consideration (age, quality of print, transfer, etc.)--and most of the conversation here at the site reaches levels of technical knowledge that I'd freely admit I simply don't possess--but simply as a *viewer* of the film, I was let down (for different reasons, admittedly) by both Blu-rays.

(Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 3:04 AM)

20. Christopher D. Jacobson said:

It really is too bad BU didn't tweak the colors to resemble that of the AB DVD. I haven't watched the BD yet (still waiting for it to arrive), and I'm sure I'll like it, but I'm a little bummed the color timing is so different and less rich. I may have to hang on to my AB DVD.

BU did a good job of eliminating the urine filter on Inferno. Shame they didn't do it again here. Actually, the bigger shame is that the HD masters should look like this to begin with...

(Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 5:55 AM)

21. Phil Quail said:

It's frustrating that the Argento films released on Blu-ray so far have all had their imperfections.

But with Argento on home video, you know there'll always be another release, from another part of the world, somewhere down the line.... and I know I'll just add it to the collection, along with the 5 versions of Trauma, the 6 versions of Tenebrae.... only 3 versions of Deep Red so far, that's not too bad.

(Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 11:08 AM)

22. Kentai said:

I know I'd love to see the Arrow and Blue Underground transfers side-by-side, if for no other reason that we might finally know what the heck was wrong with the grain structure on the Arrow release. I could only guessed "bad compression" until now, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was far more to it than that.

From the number of comparisons you've been kind enough to provide, the oddly flat and yellowed skin-tones remain my only major complaint with this HD master. My guess is that the blue information was clipped at some point during the transfer, so while you could doubtlessly make the HD version substantially less yellow, I doubt you could ever quite "match" the neutral values of the Anchor Bay DVD. A pity, since while the BD has superior resolution (not to mention actual 35mm credits), the DVD color timing strikes me as just about perfect.


Kind of sad that this 7 year old transfer looks nicer than the brand-new HD master that was prepared for CAT O' NINE TAILS - though I suppose even that's preferable to whatever the hell happened to THE BEYOND... good gravy, what is going on in Italy these days?!

(Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 8:43 PM)

23. Marcus said:

***spoilers***


The Blu-ray arrived here yesterday and I showed the film to a friend of mine. The high definition does the "killer in the mirror" clue no favors. As soon as Marcus walked through the hallway, my friend asked why was there a woman standing in the mirror. Curiously he was unable to identify the killer when the character showed up in the film.

(Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 at 7:27 PM)

 
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